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John Edwards admits to affair, denies fathering child.


Of all the candidates for the other side this guy was the one I sort of liked.  I really thought he might just be the most sincere in his speeches.  I'm very disappointed to read this story.

Bad enough to cheat on your wife but to do it while she's battling for her life with cancer?  Come on.

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards on Friday admitted to an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer. He denied fathering the woman's daughter. Edwards told ABC News that he lied repeatedly about the affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter but said that he didn't love her.

He said he has not taken a paternity test but knows he isn't the father because of the timing of the affair and the birth.

A former Edwards campaign staffer claims he is the father, not Edwards.

Hunter's daughter, Frances Quinn Hunter, was born on Feb. 27, 2008, and no father's name is given on the birth certificate filed in California.

The National Enquirer first reported on the affair in October 2007, and Edwards denied it.

"The story is false," he told reporters. "It's completely untrue, ridiculous."

The Enquirer carried another story last month, stating that its reporters had accosted Edwards in a Los Angeles hotel where he had met with Hunter after her child's birth. Edwards called it "tabloid trash," but he generally avoided reporters' inquiries, as did his former top aides.

In the interview, scheduled to air on ABC News' "Nightline," Edwards said the tabloid was correct when it reported on his meeting with Hunter at the Beverly Hills Hotel last month.

Most mainstream news organizations refrained from reporting the story, but newspapers in Charlotte and Raleigh, N.C., recounted the Enquirer's allegations in prominent articles on Thursday.

Edwards acknowledged the affair on Friday afternoon, traditionally a slow-news period even when the Olympic Games' opening ceremonies are not preoccupying millions of Americans.

Edwards was a top contender for the Democratic nomination for president, pursuing his party's nod even after announcing that his wife, Elizabeth, had a deadly form of cancer.

He placed second in the Iowa caucuses last January but dropped out of the race a few weeks later. He has been mentioned as a possible vice presidential choice for Barack Obama. The former North Carolina senator was the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2004.

David Bonior, Edwards' campaign manager for his 2008 presidential bid, said Friday he was disappointed and angry after hearing about Edwards' confession.

"Thousands of friends of the senators and his supporters have put their faith and confidence in him and he's let him down," said Bonior, a former congressman from Michigan. "They've been betrayed by his action."

Asked whether the affair would damage Edwards' future aspirations in public service, Bonior replied: "You can't lie in politics and expect to have people's confidence."

In 2006, Edwards' political action committee paid $100,000 in a four-month span to a newly formed firm run by Hunter, who directed the production of just four Web videos, one a mere 2 1/2 minutes long.

The payments from Edwards' One America Committee to Midline Groove Productions LLC started on July 5, 2006, five days after Hunter incorporated the firm in Delaware.

Midline provided "Website/Internet services," according to reports that Edwards' PAC filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Midline's work product consists of four YouTube videos showing Edwards in informal settings as he prepares to make speeches in Storm Lake, Iowa, and Pittsburgh, as he prepares for an appearance on "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart" and travels in Uganda in 2006.

Edwards' PAC followed the six-figure payment with two smaller payments totaling $14,461, the last on April 1, 2007.

At the time Hunter was compiling the videos in 2006, Edwards was preparing a run for president.

Episode One of the four videos captures a conversation between Edwards and an unseen woman as the two chat aboard a plane about an upcoming speech in Storm Lake, Iowa.

Cutting between clips of the speech and the conversation with the woman, Edwards touches on his standard political themes, declaring that government must do a better job of addressing the great issues of the day, from poverty and education to jobs and the war in Iraq.

"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues - yes, me a Democrat using that word - the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."

The sound track for the six-minute video is the song "True Reflections" which begins with these words: "When you look into a mirror, do you like what's looking at you? Now that you've seen your true reflections, what on earth are you gonna do?"

The video entitled "Plane Truths," opens with Edwards relaxing in his seat on the plane, telling the unseen woman that "I actually walked the country to see who I am, who I really am, but I don't know what the result of that will be.

Edwards adds: "But for me personally, I'd rather be successful or unsuccessful based on who I really am, not based on some plastic Ken doll that you put up in front of audiences, that's not me, you know?"



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Yeah, that's pretty low of him to do while his wife was so ill.  furious

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Sounds like presidential material to me. (That's sarcasm, by the way.)

Darnit, I kinda wanted him to be Obama's running mate. He definitely won't be now.

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man there was that senator too hitting on guys in airport bathrooms too. WE elect these guys!?!? confused

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It should be a law these people are fixed before going into office. no.gif

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At least this time it's legal and with someone of the opposite gender. Not moral, but legal in most states.

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Having been sick & hurting for so long, I can almost understand why someone would cheat during an extended, prolonged illness. It's horrible to say that but it's more understandable than when everything is allegedly fine.

I'm not saying that I'd get over it if my husband when snooping elsewhere. Oh no. I'd probably divorce him. However, I could understand it.

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Or, you're just a very understanding woman Pambo.

I'd expect my spouse to stand behind me and I would certainly stand behind her through an illness.

Sex is (and this is a shock to a lot of people) NOT a necessity. Well it is, but you know what I mean.

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Oh I'm FAR from understanding. And I know that s*x isn't a necessity. (trust me...I'm familiar with this concept) But, when your spouse is ill, it's hard to want to be close with them, knowing that being close with them is going to HURT them. I'm sure it is probably the same way with lupus or cancer or trigeminal neuralgia...or whatever. It's hard being the healthy one, knowing that pain is going to make your partner turn you away....repeatedly.

It's almost worse trying to convince the healthy one that you're OKAY enough to do it when you're feeling better, too. I said ALMOST.

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I'm sure there's a lot of emotional components to it all.

I couldn't live with myself though if I put my sexual urges or needs ahead of my marriage. Til' death do us part right? Good times and bad.

But it's good that you can be understanding in such a situation. I hope you never need to display that understanding outside a thread in the forum though.

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Ditto.

If I ever had to deal with it in real life, I think I might go all Lorena Bobbit...hmm.gif

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THAT'S more like it nod.gif

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Maybe I'm understanding...and violent. biggrin.gif

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You'd tell him you understood... Right before you went to hackin' nod.gif

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...or maybe AFTER the hacking.

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Pambo wrote:

Ditto.

If I ever had to deal with it in real life, I think I might go all Lorena Bobbit...hmm.gif



Or Bob Lorenitt if you are a guy! It seems like people don't take marriage seriously anymore. And even if he was having problems what gives her the right to come in and try to break up his marriage? Sure his wife might not have been able at the time to give him the attention he needed but that doesn't mean she should just come walking into someone elses marriage especially when there are children involved. People are selfish and they will take every opportunity in the world to screw someone else if it betters them.....

 



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it's only a matter of days before someone photo shops his mug onto a baby's face and the caption is how it really is his baby. hmm.gif

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Well supposedly he came clean to his wife in 2006 about the affair, so there should be NO chance it's his kid.

The fact he's willing to take a paternity test pretty much says he's not the father. But I'd say his political career is going to end, at the very least he won't see the White House in his future other than from the street.

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Sparky wrote:

Pambo wrote:

Ditto.

If I ever had to deal with it in real life, I think I might go all Lorena Bobbit...hmm.gif



Or Bob Lorenitt if you are a guy! It seems like people don't take marriage seriously anymore. And even if he was having problems what gives her the right to come in and try to break up his marriage? Sure his wife might not have been able at the time to give him the attention he needed but that doesn't mean she should just come walking into someone elses marriage especially when there are children involved. People are selfish and they will take every opportunity in the world to screw someone else if it betters them.....

 






I agree with you entirely. I don't see how anyone could get wrapped up with someone who's married. Unless that person lied about their relationship, but Edwards is obviously a public figure.

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they all make me sick.

There is nothing worse than betrayal. Nothing

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It is a shame, but somehow I can't even bring me to be surprised that the squeaky clean image of John Edwards is a sham. As the saying goes: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. But it rocks absolutely, too!

I don't think anyone gets to Congress without getting some dirt on them. It's not an excuse for his behavior. I think I've just come to expect this sort of thing from just about everybody. As sad as it is to say, adultery is the corporate past time where I work. My assumption is that it is probably like that most everywhere.

Having lived the whole marital infidelity thing and seen its outcome many times, all I can say is that until you are in the position, is I hope nobody here has to go through it. I figured I'd be all Lorena Bobbit until I found myself living it. Honestly, I was stunned that it happened because Kev-o had a lot of medical issues that I would have thought would have made it not so possible. Okay, so he found Sasquatch. I wasn't even so mad as I was disgusted. Just wanted him away from me quickly. I probably wouldn't hate Squatch if she hadn't been all judgemental with me (blamed me for the fact that she was doing my husband), physically accosted me, and upset my kids. My general attitude about their affair is "You F-ERS deserve each other!"

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I know how you feel about it, Pambo. We have discussed this several times. Still... I vividly recall the wife of one of my closest friends more or less criticizing my handling of the Kev situation saying how exactly she would take the hard line stand with her husband if he cheated on her. A while later, she found out that he did in fact have an affair that had already ended... well, she sure did change her tune when it came down to tearing up her life. She went from "I'd definitely Bobbitize him" to "We need to work on us and save our marriage" real quick. It all becomes much less clear when it is your reality/feelings/family/home/finances being impacted.

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I can totally understand that. Everything is easier in theory than it is in practice. When it's your life that's being threatened with unwanted change I'm sure your views on things can change quickly.



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That is exactly my point.

I tend to expect some form of shadiness in my politicians. I'm suspicious of anyone who appears all that squeaky clean and morally uprighteous. Politicians after all are human and therefore subject to human foibles, weaknesses, and shortcomings. It would be nice if they were in it to serve humanity, but that is not really why any of them do what they do. Is he a crappy husband for messing around on his wife while she was so ill... ABSOLUTELY. Does that necessarily make him a bad politician, probably not. Find me one that isn't a liar, cheater, thief, or hypocrite.

Did I mention that Squatch is a "good Christian woman"? Hmm... funny. I thought I understood "judge not lest ye be judged" to be a Christian fundamental belief and it seems like I've heard "Thou shalt not commit adultery" somewhere before... yet when I asked this woman if she considered herself a "good Christian" she replied yes, then when I suggested that perchance she READ the Bible she proudly thumps because she missed a few parts, she hung up on me. And to think I'm the one who is supposed to be a heathen in comparison. weirdface.gif Oh well... she will get hers someday.

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Well, that's iffy in my mind Mema.

When you KNOW full well what these scandals do to your career and you still can't stop yourself from giving into temptation it makes me wonder just how sound of a decision maker you really are.

It also makes me think if you can give into the temptation of an affair you PROBABLY have a price point at which you can be bought as well.

The fact they're all liars, cheaters and hypocrites doesn't make me think that you have to be those things to be a good politician. It explains to me why our government is as messed up as it is.

I think we need to expect more of our politicians, but because of years and years of this stuff we're slowly lowering our expectations.


That's my two cents! Do I get any change back?

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No change back. You and I are much of the same mind, its just that I have a slightly more jaded perspective of humanity. The foolish optimism that these folks have as far as knowing they have done some wrong things in their past but thinking 'Nobody will ever know' about that is just flat out dumb. Nothing stays burried forever. Everybody has a price... some prices just aren't directly paid for with dollars. Everybody can be gotten to... its just a matter of studying that person looking for the edge.

I would not ever elect to run for public office. I would not try putting myself up as a paragon of morality and society... I've met me. I know very well where each and every bone in my closet is and how it got there. It's funny to me that more people don't get that about themselves.

I'd so rather just see a politician who has the guts to say, "Yup... can't seem to keep my pants on, but here's what I believe on this issue...." And society respond. "You suck as a spouse... but what are you going to do for me on....." That way maybe we could have some honest, productive work done to make the world a better and perchance less corrupt place. All that time gets wasted on lying and covering up... just admit it and move on!

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I really wanted to be a polotician, once. However, I will not do that to my kids. I can take whatever they want to dish to me, but kids should be left out of it. Too bad nothing is sacred anymore.

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You're right Mema. That's the key to me here.

Come out two years ago and be the first to tell us all "Hey, before the press tells you this somewhere down the road I'm gonna do it now. My wife and I had some marital problems recently revolving around my infidelity. I'm ashamed of my actions and begged her forgiveness, which I've received. While I feel this is a private issue that has no bearing on my ability to govern, I hope to be a better husband and father in the future, and I'm sorry my actions hurt the ones I love most."

I could RESPECT that. Plus it might just save a persons career. It MAY even impress voters that he is such an honest person and one that takes a difficult situation and deals with it head on in a positive manner.

THAT may just be the type of person I'd like in political office, as opposed to the sniveling dweebs that want to try to conceal their lies.

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Before he finally came clean he emphatically denied the claims to reporters. He said it was "ludicrous" and "completely false".

He was essentially willing to let the world think this former aide of his was a liar. THAT'S what's really scary about it all.

She doesn't matter at all, his political future was the only thing that mattered. That's why I couldn't vote for him. Because I'm one of those little peons that apparently he'd take a dump on if it helped his career no.gif

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