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Every dark cloud has it's silver lining


Our economic downturn is hurting China badly too.

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Declining U.S. orders already have contributed to the closure of at least 3,600 toy factories since the beginning of 2008, according to the Chinese government, leaving hundreds of thousands of Chinese workers suddenly out of work in this sector alone. Some of the shutdowns have triggered violent protests, a situation that could worsen if the Western recession drags on through 2009, as many economists are predicting.

Unemployment in China could deprive a lot of people of their lifeline, says Hu Xindou, an economics professor at the Beijing Institute of Technology. So it could trigger social instability or even shake the rule of the Communist party.

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9 out of every 10 toys sold in the U.S. comes from China!  That's just not right no.gif



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How ironic. They might end up shooting their government officials. weirdface.gif The toy industry is hurting right now anyway. Toys R Us is closing all of its stores soon. hmm.gif Guess I'm glad I didn't use my Toys R Us credit card when I went shopping there.

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Oh wow. I didn't know Toy's R Us was closing all their stores!

That only leaves K-Bee, if they're even still around. I haven't really mall shopped in years.

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Here's an image of some workers that were smashing the offices of the company they worked for because they were let go without compensation.

Hmm.  I didn't know they had it in em.  Wonder if any of those pictured are still alive or if the gubment had em' all arrested and put to death yet.

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I had no idea that Toys-R-Us was in trouble. KB is not a good place to toy shop. Prices are generally higher than all other stores.

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Toys R Us announced last week that they will be filing bankruptcy after Christmas. Today was the first time I heard on the news that they are planning to close all 400 stores. I'm not sure if there is still a K-Bee Toys or not. hmm.gif I hope there is... happy childhood memories of playing K-Bee football. smile.gif

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I just remember getting cheap video games for my Intellivision at KB Toys. Usually after Christmas my Mom and Grandma would go to the mall and I'd go too with my Christmas money.

KB would have a big dump bin of games marked half price.

Good times.

Of course the games were all kind of crappy ones, but I didn't care.

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Wait... I may have heard it wrong. K-B filed bankruptcy last week. They are having store closing sales. I was barely awake when they started talking about that on the news.

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Ah, that makes more sense. I don't know how they survived as long as they did to begin with.

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KB Toys files for bankruptcy protection
Like many retailers this season, it was forced to offer heavy discounts

updated 6:55 p.m. CT, Thurs., Dec. 11, 2008
NEW YORK - They couldnt hang on two more weeks.

Just 14 days ahead of the biggest day on the retail calendar, KB Toys filed for bankruptcy and planned to start going-out-of-business sales right away, choked by a downturn so severe that sales were down 20 percent in what should have been its busiest season.

Desperate to pull in shoppers, the company touted Buy 2, Get 1 Free sale on name brands like Playskool and Littlest Pet Shop, $25 off Mattel and Fisher-Price toys and other sharp discounts in ads distributed Thursday before the company filed for Chapter 11 protection.

But the blowout sales turned into liquidation sales, as the company filed for bankruptcy protection for the second time in four years, unable to offset the sudden and sharp decline in consumer sales it had seen in the past two months.

Manufacturers were concerned about shipping to them over the last couple of months, said Jim Silver, a toy analyst at timetoplaymag.com. This did not happen all of a sudden.

He said that the timing of the filing was a surprise; he expected it in January.

That a toy retailer filed for bankruptcy just before Christmas shows how bleak things have become, as KB Toys joins a growing list of retailers in bankruptcy, including Mervyns LLC, The Sharper Image, Steve & Barrys, Linens N Things and Circuit City Stores Inc.

While the toy sector is faring better than other segments of retail such as apparel and home furnishings, it has seen sales slow compared to last years levels. Analysts expect toy sales this holiday season to be flat or down slightly from what market research firm NPD Group said was last years total of $10.4 billion.

In response, toy retailers amped up their discounts.

KB Toys had aggressively cut prices to entice cash-strapped shoppers, offering hundreds of toys for $10 or less. It also expanded its value program, which offers deals on new items each week.

Still, in the filing in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware, the company said that between Oct. 5 and Dec. 8, sales in stores open at least one year fell nearly 20 percent. Thats an aberration for toy stores, which usually make up to half of their sales during the holidays.

Silver said that as manufacturers balked at shipping hot holiday items to KB Toys, their sales dropped off. KB Toys also suffered from deciding not to sell video-game consoles such as the Nintendo Wii, one of the few toy items selling well this year, Silver said.

Their business model didnt work, he said. Theyre selling closeouts, today people want the hot toys.

The 86-year-old company said it considered its alternatives and decided the most viable way to cover its debt was to begin liquidating its stores via immediate going-out-of-business sales. KB Toys also plans to sell its wholesale distribution business.

Filing for Chapter 11 protection rather than Chapter 7 liquidation allows a company to retain more control over selling off assets. Under Chapter 7, the court immediately appoints a trustee to take over the case.

KB Toys declined to comment beyond what was in the filing.

The Pittsfield, Mass.-based company operates 277 mall-based stores, 40 KB Toy Works stores which are mainly in strip malls, 114 outlet stores and 30 short-term holiday stores. It has 4,400 full-time employees and 6,515 seasonal employees.

KB Toys, which says it has about $480 million in annual sales, said in the filing that it had debts between $100 million and $500 million and total assets in the same range.

Vendors top the list of unsecured creditors. The toy retailer owes Hong Kong-based toy manufacturer Li & Fung about $27.2 million, El Segundo, Calif.-based Mattel Toys $1.3 million and St. Louis-based Energizer Battery more than $728,000. Other creditors are Hasbro Inc. and the maker of Legos.

KB Toys filed for bankruptcy in 2004 and emerged nearly two years later as a subsidiary of investment firm Prentice Capital Management, which owns 90 percent of the companys common stock. During that bankruptcy, KB sold its retail Internet operation to eToys Direct Inc., cut the number of retail stores from 1,200 to 650 and closed a distribution center.

Silver said KB had been struggling since emerging from its first bankruptcy protection in 2005.





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Well, whichever one may be closing I may have to pass through just in case I want anything.

If it is Toys-R-Us, I wonder if they will slash the prices of inventory since there is nowhere to send it. Provided they are stocked with something you want (they may stop shipping stock items), it could be a great time to rack up some debt in there. A Wii and other video games, Legos, stuff for my nieces, so many things and so little money.

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K-B looks like the place to browse... except apparently they are having issues getting stock. I'm thinking another trip to the mall is in order. Walker told me last weekend that he wants a soccer ball.

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Guess who is going to the mall toinght?

I still need to pick up Leapster 2 games for my niece. Worth a shot.

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Might as well try it. The story says K-B is running a lot of "buy 2, get 1 free" specials.

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That may be nice. I was looking to get her three games anyway.

Now, the question becomes, what should we have for dinner before going to the mall to browse and maybe shop?

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Good question! I'm thinking of throwing me in the shower and hitting the mall this afternoon.

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Sure, rub it in. Now would be a good time to go, except some of us are stuck in the office today. cry

If you are looking for anything in particular and don't see it, but know they had it for a good price, let me know. Maybe we will have it around here.

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Will do. I'm still sitting here gawking at the news. This whole day is crazy.

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hey everybody in the world go buy something. problem solved

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I bought the boy's main Christmas present and a 1tb external backup hard drive.

I did my share.



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I think I'm gonna go get some Chipolte soon.smile.gif

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I've got a bunch of gift certificates to buy. Wondering if that is a good idea at this point. confuse.gif

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We haven't had a KB toy store here for at least 6 or 7 years now.  They were always higher on toys than Toys R Us but they had some great "after Christmas sales" if you could get into the store.  They had a very small store in our mall and I think the lack of space really hurt them. 

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I don't remember if I saw one last week while I was at the outlet mall. Figure it couldn't help to check that out.

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I get to check two stores. One in the outlet mall (that has only been open about 13 months) and one in the regular mall. Can't hurt to do a walk through. The exercise will do me good.

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hmm.gif Guess I didn't notice last time I was at the outlet mall, but K-B Toys is not there anymore. I had to suffer Toys R Us again.

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Sorry about your luck Mema. I went to both stores Friday night. They have everything marked down 30%. There wasn't anything really there that I wanted. Well, other than a Nerf gun. I may go back right before Christmas to see what is left and how much more it will be discounted. Then I may the Nerf Tommy Gun. I also may have to search through the legos or video games.

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Wal-Mart with their EDLP and China have put KB and Toys R Us out of business. I am surprised, and very happy they held on as long as they did.

This will sound very bad, but I am glad that China is being effected. Unfortunately it leads to worse slave labor.

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confuzzed wrote:

Sorry about your luck Mema. I went to both stores Friday night. They have everything marked down 30%. There wasn't anything really there that I wanted. Well, other than a Nerf gun. I may go back right before Christmas to see what is left and how much more it will be discounted. Then I may the Nerf Tommy Gun. I also may have to search through the legos or video games.






I have the 20 shot rapid fire Nerf gun. I strongly recommend it. nod.gif

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I glad it comes with recommendation. That makes me lean more towards getting one. I still think with this layout in here that a game of laser tag would be great. Office laser tag. Now who wouldn't want to play?

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