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Alone or Lonely?


A topic I think about often - you've maybe heard the saying "I'd rather be alone than lonely" speaking of singledom versus miserably married. But it seems the majority still believe a person should end up with a significant other of some sort. So I wonder, is there such a thing as a happy, contented single person with no drive for marriage or do you think it's a ruse for an unwillingness to settle or a fruitless search for perfection? Or worse, such a horrible childhood that relationships are purely dyfunctional and better left undeveloped.

I'm bringing this up here because I know there are a few here (me included) who are of the long-term single set (in my case divorced 6 years) and I often hang out on a board called quirkyalone.net which suggests these people are a concrete subset of the population. But they're often criticized for it, since it's not the norm. Whatcha think?

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I never thought I'd get married.  I thought getting married would require me to become someone that I'm not.  I'm a very independent person, and I never wanted to have to rely on anyone for anything, or be restricted to what I am or am not allowed to do.  But I got lucky, I met my husband, and he gives me the freedom to be who I want to be.  But marriage isn't right for everyone, and if you don't feel it, you shouldn't force it.

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I have a very good friend that has been divorced for years.  She is older than I am, I never asked her age, but I believe she is in late 50's to early 60's.  she has been alone for years.  We spoke about it and she is very content with her life as it is.


I think I can understand, because there are sure times when I am home alone and it is bliss.


I did not get married until I was 29 and left home at 18.  I always lived alone.  Tried roommates my first couple of years at 19-but by 21 never again.  My home has always been my sanctuary and the quieter the better.  Don't get me wrong, love my wife and kids--but----enjoy my moments of silence and ffr.  That is probably why I spend so much time on the golf course.


My mother has been divorced from my father for about 10 years now and lives alone in Wisconsin.  She has no desire to share a house or bed again and said she loves her life.  I think I know my mom pretty well and believe her.


Probably not a good parallel but alone does not mean lonely.



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There is nothing wrong with being single!  There is always something you can be doing to keep life meaningful and rich, it does not have to be tied to another person.  In fact, I think that you should be happy with your life as it is before you consider joining with someone in marriage.  Your 100% will be 50% of the new partnership.  My wife and I knew that marriage would be a good thing when we could just be honest and say, "I don't need to be with you, but I want to be with you.  And I'm willing to work to make it work."  Granted, after 14 years she is like one of my major organs and I don't even want to think about not having her around, but life by no means comes to a grinding halt if your single.

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I've found for myself that single is the way to be. I like being answerable to no one other than myself. This does not mean that I am a loner or don't have close relationships in my life. I've just found that sometimes it is hard enough to care for oneself in this world, much less having a family to worry about and provide for.


And if I want to be up at 3 am to grill out I can do so without raising eyebrows. If I spontaneously leave the house and hop a train to chicago I can do so. I love the autonomy and freedom too much to compromise it now I think.     



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Zim - Interesting question. It took me a while to put this together as I kept getting interrupted. There were no other response at the time I started this, but by now several good points may have already been made. But, here it is:


I think it is possible to be alone, but still occasinally lonely. I am okay with being alone. I have come to accept it. As long as I keep myself occupied. You may be surrounded by friends, but there are times when I spend way too much time by myself and am a bit lonely. That is when I notice that I don't have what a lot of my friends have. I am not looking for anything permanent, but it would be nice to have someone to hang out with, to go places, do things, talk or just be in the sam eroom together. If God sees it fit for me to spend the rest of my life with someone, I will do my best to embrace it. It's like the saying, if you are not out searching for a relationship or love, it will find you. Although, I probably wouldn't know it unless it walked up and smacked me.


I do believe that my not wanting to attach myself has something to do with my childhood. You can only go through so much as a kid. Everyone knows how fragile kids are. You see how your parents were and you do not want to go through the pain and fall into the same habits of treating each other the way they did and the way things came across with the kids. It makes it hard to know what love really is. My theory became the way to avoid that in the rest of my life was not to get too close to anyone. That is my main reason for not doing anything about my single status. Call it a slight fear if you will.


I believe that things have changed in our generation where it is okay to be single. Just look how things have progressed from our grandparent's time through today. You were frowned upon or there was something wrong with you if you did not have a mate. People used to be married right out of high school. Now they wait until they are finished college or even later. Call it a career oriented move if you will, but it is still later than most of our parents. A majority of people even live together before becoming married.


Okay. I think I am finished now.


 



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For the sake of a good discussion, here is a counter-point.  Should you have a single life that is going along just swimmingly, and you are led to that magic person, don't panic!  Is there a huge difference between single and married?  Of course, but it is not a move towards restriction or loss of freedom.  If you go, you go by choice and you accept the shift in priorities and focus.  It's a whole new wonderful world of living life with another set of eyes, ears, and heart.  More if kids enter the mix!  But that's another thread....




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WFTR wrote:


it is not a move towards restriction or loss of freedom. 


 


I think that's what many people are afraid of.  It's what I was afraid of.  But when you find that perfect person, they just compliment you, not restrict you.


My mom and dad married when my mom got pregnant.  They should've never been married.  Some of my first memories are of them fighting.  Then, they got divourced when I was 5, and I lived with my mom, and through her dating.  She went through a lot and dated some abusive guys.  I vowed that I would never be treated like that, even if it means that I would rarely date or not get married.  I dated less people than my friends, but the relationships I had were more meaningful.  My husband and I took it slow.  Although we've been together for 7 years, we've only been married for 2.  The worst thing you can do is settle, but when it's for real, don't deny it.



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The Bible actually encourages us to stay alone. Of course God does not mean to end civilization by us all being single, but it explains that it is better to be alone, so you can focus on living his way. That does not mean that you cannot do that with a family, he just finds it would be easier. I have to agree.


I am in a marriage where I am not sure I want to be. We too took it slow and waited 3 years, but things have changed so much for us. We have a child and I could not face leaving her even for a weekend so right now I am stuck in a lonely relationship. I am married, but feel single. I know that marriage is not easy, I did not think it would be, my husband and I just are not on the same page, heck I do not think he even has seen the book!


I do not believe that I was cut out to be alone though, just not sure if I am meant to be with my husband...


 


GREAT THREAD!



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  suggest you take husband to the library before someone else does

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Ruby I know how you feel and shut up dave!  Have you even seen a library??


I don't know if you want some one who is divorced empathizing w/ you but marriage can definitely be rough.  I've hear the Bible says stay single but doesn't it also say it's not good for man to be alone?  Where's the prophet of posts? 



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     Star , yes dear I have been to the "library", You'll find me in the non-fiction dept. You'll find my Ex in there somewhere too . I'm just not sure where. I think my son might be useing their computer, but I'm not sure on that either, You'll probably find an ex girlfriend or 2 also , they'll be in the fantasy/romance section , you know the books, white knight, castles  kings fortune etc.   

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Someone call for a prophet?  I'll do until one gets here.


The scripture in question is 1 Corinthians 7, and it covers many aspects of marriage.  In it, Paul expresses his opinion that he wishes people could be like him and devote themselves to service of Christ, but if you marry, give it all you've got.  Lock it down and protect it so Stan can't get a foothold.


Everyone should do as they are called to do, be it single or married.


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Oh Wef, please don't edit that post!  I know you didn't mean it to be humorous, but I kinda like using Stan instead of Satan!

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Well, yes, I did mean Satan....but have you seen Stan?  The guy is freakin' ripped!  And I hear he loves kids, too.  All us married guys better treat our wives right, Stan is out there.


(MZ, can you drop in some kind of appropriate "Stan" picture?)



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awww davey I didn't mean it as a slam on your past relationships.  I'm sure you get lots of chicks.  No need to raise your voice.  I actually meant that you don't go to the library.  Do you?  It's not like you were in the book club? Hmm...

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Gladly.  Ladies, meet Stan:



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Queenie - I am going to need a little more. Show us a pretty boy.

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What a temptation!!!  I can see how he's related to Satan.  He he he Stan!!!



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My husband would never go to 'either' library. He is in it for the long haul. He is content being on cruise control, and I ran out of gas miles ago. He thinks that it is normal that we do not really connect and that we always seem to argue. Gets that from his folks. We are both very different, I used to think that was a good thing, but it has divided us even more.


 



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Ruby, I know it'll be hard to get him to go, but have you ever thought of marriage counseling?  Or even just counseling for yourself may help.

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Rubes, time to seek some outside council.  Your husband sounds like he'd be resistant, but there are many councelors and programs that can help you, and help you find a way to reach him.


Try going to www.family.org and check their resources.  Fair warning, the site can be very right wing conservative, but their marriage resources are top notch.


And as always, we're sending out "Knee Mail".  (cudos to Dylan for that one)



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Girls, we all know that Stan has many faces (and bodies!).



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Aw, Geez.  Orlando Bloom.  Please do NOT show that to my daughters.  He is at the top of their lists.


You see what I'm sayin' guys?  TREAT 'EM RIGHT!  Our competition can afford personal trainers, and they listen!



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Oh JEEZ RIGGS I AM SURE GLAD WE DIDNT CREATE THAT BIKINI BABES OF FREEZE FRAME THREAD LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT! LORD KNOWNS THE LADIES HERE WOULD HAVE A FIT!!!

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      star -  we (the people of the county ) built a town center a couple of years ago ,  it has a nice new library, 4or5 computers to use , more books, magazines , and even DVDs to check out .  its not as big as the library at Alexandria was , but for our community it does ok. heck ,our cards even have a bar code on them . as for the "chicks" , as MZ. is married ,and you are 1000 miles away , and confuzzed is ..confuzzed , i guess ill be alone for a while as i dont want to settle for 2nd best !!

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Thou shalt not be tempted by Stan....
Thou shalt not be tempted by Stan....
Thou shalt not be tempted by Stan....

ARGH! Not working!!

JD, I understand, why just the other day I was eating a bowl of cat food sitting on the roof throwing clothespins down the gutter and wondering if it would worry a significant other.

Personally speaking, I've created quite a happy little existence between activity in an outdoorsy club around town, play time with the tyke and my own hobbies that I haven't even dated in a couple years without much loss for it. Before that I dated a guy or two, but no one I brought home to meet the tyke. Now I've met someone who compliments my lifestyle and personality remarkably well. It's just that I'm so used to being on my own, finding quality time to date, let alone the broader questions of potentially combining households and becoming a 'wife' again aren't a dreamy status for me anymore. I've been wondering if I'm 'wife' material anymore... I appreciated Weftur's comments regarding that - two wholes that can come together and not be half of what they were before...

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Ruby, I know it'll be hard to get him to go, but have you ever thought of marriage counseling?  Or even just counseling for yourself may help.


 


Not leaving anytime soon. We have tried two counselors, the first one told us we were beyond his realm, the second one suggested divorce. But that was a huge step for him. That seemed to help for awhile, but it has worn off! Thanks for all the help and suggestions... prayers help. He has been understanding during all of my family illnesses, he just does not put any effort into our relationship. So we are at an overpass?!



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   Zim and all other ffr girls ,i didnt leave you out of my last post on purpose, was just haveing fun with who was here at the time , please forgive me if i somehow made you or others feel not wanted as that would be VERY far from the truth . You girls rock, and im proud to know ya even if its only online . sincerly yours   Dave

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Do your babes thread, it makes no difference to me.  Here, do you need a jump start?



OK, it's not a bikini, but personally, I think Yancy Butler is beautiful.



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