nice speech by the adulterer , only one problem , how exactly does it infringe on someones right to vote ? would someone like to clarify that for me ? thought not. case closed . next.

You should expect the mild mouth coming from sweet ole me JR!!

Dave- I think it infringes on them, because he thinks it will cause them undo stress to obtain a picture id, if they do not have one. I am sure there are millions without a license or vehicle, but I know you can get a picture id at the DMV too! Maybe he should bus them all to the DMV on their way to the polls!!

You got an extra bullet for him in your gun Dave????

 

He was here not too long ago when a drunk and belligerent black man was shot and killed after robbing a local Piggly Wiggly and then running. When the cops caught up to him, he went to reach in his pocket and approached the police and of course they shot him. Well there was no gun in his pockets, but I guess Jesse expected our police to have ESP or Xray vision.

Yeah, this is one I don't understand. How can you get through everyday life without a photo ID? Even if for some reason you lose your ID on election day, you can still submit an absentee ballot, and the article said they still used other forms of identification. In fact, I think if you have legal US photo ID, you should be able to vote, even if you're not registered. My husband registered when he amended his ID when he moved, but last election day, they couldn't find him on the list and couldn't get through on the phone number they were supposed to call, so he didn't get to vote. He's a veteran of a foreign war, but they couldn't find him on their damn lists, so he didn't get to vote. Tell me where they sense is in that?

I had to resurrect this thread for the following :

Castro: Cuba Could Have Saved U.S. Victims
By ANITA SNOW, Associated Press Writer

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The Cuban President Fidel Castro gives a speech ...

HAVANA - President Fidel Castro on Monday lamented that the U.S. government had not still responded two weeks after he offered to send nearly 1,600 Cuban doctors to help Hurricane Katrina victims, saying the team could have saved lives.

The U.S. government has suggested there were sufficient American physicians to care for the ailing among those displaced by the storm across Louisiana and Mississippi.

An appeal for help from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services "has seen a robust response from the American medical community," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said earlier this month.

"It hurts to think about it," Castro told several thousand doctors gathered for a combined graduation and the formation of Cuba's new international disaster team of experienced health workers.

"Perhaps some of those desperate people, situated in the water and on the verge of dying, could have been saved," the Cuban leader said.

"That's a hard lesson for those whose false pride and erroneous concepts have driven them not to respond, even late, to our offer," Castro said of American officials.

A State Department spokesman in Washington said Monday night there was no immediate reaction to Castro's latest comments.

Washington and Havana have not had diplomatic relations for more than four decades and Castro's offer put U.S. officials in the uncomfortable position of deciding whether to accept help from a country they have described as an "outpost of tyranny."

Castro himself has routinely turned down offers of U.S. humanitarian relief for hurricanes and other disasters in Cuba. After Hurricane Dennis pummeled the island in July, he expressed gratitude but rejected Washington's offer of $50,000 in aid.

Here is yet another leader/idiot! I used to think that we were a violent nation until I started watching the news. People are violent all over the world unfortunately.

TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- Canadian officials, seeking to make sense of another fatal shooting in what has been a record year for gun-related deaths, said Tuesday that along with a host of social ills, part of the problem stemmed from what they said was the United States exporting its violence.

Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin and Toronto Mayor David Miller warned that Canada could become like the United States after gunfire erupted Monday on a busy street filled with holiday shoppers, killing a 15-year-old girl and wounding six bystanders -- the latest victims in a record surge in gun violence in Toronto.

The shooting stemmed from a dispute among a group of 10 to 15 youth, and the victim was a teenager out with a parent near a popular shopping mall, police said Tuesday.

"I think it's a day that Toronto has finally lost its innocence," Det. Sgt. Savas Kyriacou said. "It was a tragic loss and tragic day."

While many Canadians take pride in Canadian cities being less violent than their American counterparts, Toronto has seen 78 murders this year, including a record 52 gun-related deaths -- almost twice as many as last year.

"What happened yesterday was appalling. You just don't expect it in a Canadian city," the mayor said.

"It's a sign that the lack of gun laws in the U.S. is allowing guns to flood across the border that are literally being used to kill people in the streets of Toronto," Miller said.

Miller said Toronto, a city of nearly three million, is still very safe compared to most American cities, but the illegal flow of weapons from the United States is causing the noticeable rise in gun violence.

"The U.S. is exporting its problem of violence to the streets of Toronto," he said.

Miller said that while almost every other crime in Toronto is down, the supply of guns has increased and half of them come from the United States.

Miller said the availability of stolen Canadian guns is another problem, and that poverty in certain Toronto neighborhoods is a root cause.

"There are neighborhoods in Toronto where young people face barriers of poverty, discrimination and don't have real hope and opportunity. The kind of programs that we once took for granted in Canada that would reach out to young people have systematically disappeared over the past decade and I think that gun violence is a symptom of a much bigger problem," Miller said.

The escalating violence prompted the prime minister to announce earlier this month that if re-elected on January 23, his government would ban handguns. With severe restrictions already in place against handgun ownership, many criticized the announcement as politics.

Martin, who says up to half of the gun crimes in Canada involve weapons brought in illegally from the United States, raised the smuggling problem when he met with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in October.

Martin offered his condolences in a statement Tuesday, saying he was horrified by the shootings.

"What we saw yesterday is a stark reminder of the challenge that governments, police forces and communities face to ensure that Canadian cities do not descend into the kind of rampant gun violence we have seen elsewhere," Martin said.

John Thompson, a security analyst with the Toronto-based Mackenzie Institute, says the number of guns smuggled from the United States is a problem, but that Canada has a gang problem -- not a gun problem -- and that Canada should stop pointing the finger at the United States.

"It's a cop out. It's an easy way of looking at one symptom rather than addressing a whole disease," Thompson said.

Two suspects were arrested and at least one firearm was seized soon after the shootings Monday. Kyriacou said it was an illegal handgun.

Three females and four males were injured, including one male who is in critical condition. Police believe they were bystanders.

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I have to agree with Dave on this one. They're using America's bad reputation as an excuse.

When the only ones to blame are the masses themselves!

 

  Archie Bunker summed it up best. In an episode Gloria and Mike were doing the anti - gun thing .

 Gloria says - last year there were 1000 people killed by guns , to which Archie replied -

 Would it make ya feel better if they was pushed out of a window !  lol

You're right, if you take the guns out of their hands violent people will still do violent things, expecially in a group.

We just had ANOTHER mob beating here in Milwaukee.  A guy pulled up to a group of teenagers that were blocking a street and honked for them to move, instead they pulled the guy from his car and beat him nearly to death.

No guns involved, just some sick, evil people.

Yeah Ruby, color doesn't matter, they'll beat anyone.

Last year we had several cases of mobs of kids just running around in a pack of 14 or 15 and looking for people to beat.  It's a passtime now.

I'm sick and tired of these kids getting off easy because most of them are only 15 or 16 years old.  I think every last one of them should get about 20 years, and if the victim dies they should ALL get life in prison.

We're just too soft on some types of crime in this country.

Even I agree with you here, and I'm a softy. They are old enough to know what they are doing, and all they'll learn from a couple years at juvie is how to do it better when they get out.

This can't help him politically. The only way I see him getting re-elected is because who wants that job to being with?

NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Mayor Ray Nagin on Tuesday apologized for urging residents to rebuild a "chocolate New Orleans" and saying, "You can't have New Orleans no other way."

"I'm really sorry that some people took that they way they did, and that was not my intention," the mayor said. "I say everybody's welcome."

Nagin added that he never should have used the term "chocolate." (Watch some of the mayor's controversial remarks -- 1:32)

Across the Hurricane Katrina-ravaged city, many voiced their displeasure with the mayor's Monday remarks at a Martin Luther King Jr. Day speech. One Web site even began peddling T-shirts showing Nagin with a top hat along with the caption "Willy Nagin and the Chocolate Factory."

Resident Alex Gerhold called Nagin's remarks "stupid" and "pitiful."

"He used the wrong dairy product to describe us. We're more Neapolitan, not chocolate," Gerhold said. "It doesn't do the city any kind of justice."

Aisha Johnson said she didn't think the mayor's comments were necessarily inflammatory, just out of line.

"He should have chosen his words more carefully," she said.

But some residents, like Ann McKendrick, were angered.

"You can't reunite a city if your comments are going to divide a city," McKendrick said.

Nagin's remarks fall into a line of inappropriate statements the mayor has made, said civil rights attorney Tracie Washington. She said she is "done trying to figure out what our mayor is going to say off the cuff on any given day."

"It was an unfortunate goofball statement for him to make," Washington said. "All it has really done is make the city look just a little bit more ridiculous."

The mayor, who is up for re-election this year, publicly apologized for his remarks at the beginning of a Bring New Orleans Back Commission meeting. He said he was trying only to encourage many of the city's displaced poor population to return.

In an interview with CNN, Nagin said he was addressing an "unspoken thing about who's coming back, who should come back, what type of city we are going to have in the future."

Before Katrina hit on August 29, the city was 67 percent African-American.

"It was designed to talk to the African-American community for the most part, not only for here but throughout the country -- and to make sure that they understood that they were welcomed in this city," he said.

On Monday, Nagin said God wanted New Orleans to be predominantly black and said he didn't care what the predominantly white Uptown section of the city had to say about it.

"I don't care what people are saying Uptown or wherever they are. This city will be chocolate at the end of the day," he said. "This city will be a majority African-American city. It's the way God wants it to be."

After the statement, he insisted he wasn't being divisive.

"How do you make chocolate? You take dark chocolate, you mix it with white milk, and it becomes a delicious drink. That is the chocolate I am talking about," he said. "New Orleans was a chocolate city before Katrina. It is going to be a chocolate city after. How is that divisive? It is white and black working together, coming together and making something special."

Nagin, first elected in 2002, was supposed to come up for re-election next month. However, state officials postponed the city election until April because of the disruptions caused by Katrina.

I agree- racism is a two way street!

 

 

 

If New Orleans is a Neapolitan city, who's the strawberry? The Cajuns?