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Ruby


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I am not sure what I would do. If he cheated or broke it off- then I might want to keep it, but then again it would just be a reminder!

 

Don't hock that engagement ring just yet.

If you don't get married, you're not entitled to keep the ring, the Tennessee Court of Appeals said Monday.

In a ruling that appears to be the first appellate decision of its kind in the state, the court said that if the wedding is canceled, the person who gave the engagement ring is entitled to get it back.

"In summary, we hold that an engagement ring is given in contemplation of marriage, and as such, is impliedly a conditional gift," the unanimous opinion, written by Judge Charles D. Susano, said.

If the marriage doesn't take place, "the engagement ring goes back to the one who gave it."

The decision stems from a legal battle over an engagement ring that began in a Knox County court. The ruling involves a woman who is a reporter for WSMV in Nashville.

On Christmas Day 2005, Jason Crippen placed an engagement ring on Catharyn Campbell's finger and proposed marriage.

After the couple broke up, Crippen asked for the ring back; Campbell would not give it to him.

The opinion doesn't describe the ring or give its value.

Crippen's attorney, Adam Priest of Knoxville, said he couldn't give the value of the ring without permission from his client.

Crippen sued Campbell to get the ring back, but a Knox County circuit judge said she was entitled to keep it because it was a gift.

Campbell would not comment after the ruling Monday, but her attorney said he was disappointed that the appeals court didn't consider the ring a gift.

"I believe this gift took on unique and special meaning considering it was a Christmas Day gift," attorney James K. Scott said.

The Court of Appeals ordered Campbell to return the ring.



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Lady Strange


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Engagment rings are just dumb. Silly unnecessary girlie bragging rights. As annoying as those showers I hate. If you have a wedding ring, why would you need an "engagment" ring? Half the time, the engagement doesn't go through anyway, so what's the point? This shouldn't even have to be an issue.
(Just my personal opinion. OK, I'm done now.)

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I kept my engagement ring!  smile  And he didn't argue...he would'nt dare!

A beautiful antique huge cabachon garnet heart surrounded by 15 rose cut diamonds!  I'm attached to it!  So gothic and stunningly beautiful!  I just wear it on a different finger now!  I could never part with it!


 

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Yeah, I've never understood engagement rings either. Maybe just to prove that the man can support the woman so she'll marry him?

That being said, I did get an engagement ring, and probably would've wanted one just as a symbol of love (our engagement was also 2 years long). We shopped for it together, and almost got one that cost $250. But, then at the last place, I saw one I loved that was $90. It's nothing big or fancy, but I love it.

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Mine is a ruby with white gold. I told the hubby when we met that if I ever get married I want a ruby and white gold, the jeweler told him that it would be cheaper to get diamonds and yellow gold. But he got what I wanted. It is small, but means so much. It is about the only nice, romantic thing he has done. I could do without our band- that was enough!

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A ruby for Ruby huh?  wink.gif

I don't really believe in the terms "engagement" or "fiance".  We dated seriously for 10 years before getting married, but I never once considered him anything other than "my boyfriend."  When we planned to get married a couple of months before we did, we just had plans to get married.  Then he became my "husband."  That's it.  I do like my wedding ring - I think they're cool things.  I wear it every day although not around the house.  So technically, if I have a day of not going out at all, then I don't wear it.

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I never take mine off...well I did a few months ago!evileye

Anyway his is on permanently- when he cut off some of his finger tips- his ring finger knuckle got so swollen that he has to have it cut off if he wants to remove it!weirdface

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We decided to get married because common law marriage isn't recognized in Indiana. We decided on a long engagement because we decided not to elope (which having done a regular wedding, I wish we would've just eloped) and we needed time to get up the money.

Frankly, I wish I could wear just my engagement ring. Now that I have it, I'm not all that fond of my wedding ring. It's too wide. But neither one ever comes off, and neither does Brian's. It's a physical symbol of our love for each other, so I don't believe in taking it off as long as I love him. Granted, there are brief times when it's necessary to take it off (such as when Brian had to have an MRI), but for the most part, it's permanent, just like our dedication to each other.

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MzHartz wrote:
it's permanent, just like our dedication to each other.
That's nice.  smile.gif



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I think the whole idea of an engagement ring started a long time ago as an outward sign to show other men that the woman is betrothed to someone else......in other words, back off buddy, she's taken. 

I haven't worn my engagement and wedding rings in over 8 years now.  I had to have them cut off when my hand was crushed while helping my husband build a wooden shed up at our cottage.  Neither of us has taken them in to the jeweler to have them fixed......they're sitting in my jewelry box.   A few years ago he wanted to buy me a plain gold band, but honestly, I don't miss wearing a ring.  I'm kinda weird, I know, but I don't need a symbol on my hand to know what's in the heart. 



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ghostdancer wrote:

A few years ago he wanted to buy me a plain gold band, but honestly, I don't miss wearing a ring.  I'm kinda weird, I know, but I don't need a symbol on my hand to know what's in the heart. 


I don't think that's weird at all, Ghost.



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Never had an engagement ring, and my wedding band was my grandmother's. When we divorced I gave the band back to my mother. No more marriage for me but I will buy myself a nice diamond ring one day and I will probably where it on that hand.

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I had an engagement ring and a wedding ring.
I hardly wore the engagement ring though cos I was anurse back then and wasn't appropriate...and I'm not big on jewellry anyways...It wasn't expensive just symbolic....red and white lol
When we divorced I kept them both - my thinking simply being that one day the kids might like them. Also I think by keeping them I am demonstrating that their dad and I can stay amicable and be sensible about matters. but I think only demonstrated that by not having childish tantrums etc and throwing them back at him.
And anyways, marriage was an important part of my lfe at the time
(but boy I'm glad it's over lol....)
Mark and I are very happy - no plans for marriage. And we can all get on together with the ex very civilly...which to me is very important for the kids stability.
(Yes I know I am very fortunate in that area)

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Personally I think the wedding band is an important symbol.

I don't understand the concept of the Engagement Ring being so expensive and the wedding band being so cheap. To me the Engagement ring should simply become the "wedding" ring once your married. But hey, who am I to argue with tradition.

To me the engagement ring almost seems like a bribe. "Here honey, I spent a couple grand on this rock for your finger, NOW will you marry me?!?"

As for the original topic. I would think that if the wedding didn't happen the woman would WANT to return it, unless she's hoping to hock it for cash or just being petty and mean, wanting to hurt her ex.

The rings only symbolism at that point is of a failed relationship, why would she want to keep it?

But as a guy, I wouldn't ask for it back unless she broke up with me for something out of my control (unless it was a family heirloom).

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We too were together for 10 years before we got married. I work so much around the house that I take my ring off quite a bit. AC does too.

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Jeremy Riggs wrote:
The rings only symbolism at that point is of a failed relationship, why would she want to keep it?


"You keep the ring, and go tell everyone we failed
So much for true love...
And other fairy tales"
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I have both rings. My husband did not go all out on my engagement ring. It is small and simple but I loved it. When we went wedding ring shopping ironically I fell in love with a set, so I had it soldered together. My husband doesn't understand why I want to keep my engagement ring though. It's simply because he bought it for me. aww

(i know gag, gag bleh) wink

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I say keep it! Not really, I was given a ring years ago when I was waaaay to young and I gave it back the next day.



How do you guys feel about this one tho.....


A coworker is dating a man thats recently divorced, he had his wedding band tatooed on his finger as well as wearing a wedding band. (needless to say his wife left him) Now he is a single man that still has that symbol of his love to another woman out for the world to see.


If it were me...I would ask him to have it removed. What do you guys think? She is struggling with this.

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Tattoo removal is expensive and painful, but if that is not an issue- remove it. Otherwise she needs to buy a WIDE band!

-- Edited by Ruby at 11:18, 2007-09-27

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I'm sure tommy lee never had his Pam tattoo removed.smile

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money is NOT an issue

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I think a name tatoo is pretty dumb in the first place...hmm

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I think all tattoos are dumb, but that's my opinion...if I got one though JD having E or Z would be okay. But never my spouse!

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His issue with having it removed is that he is in the public eye in a christian community and has not come out to the public with being divorced.

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we have a lady here who has Tommy tatooed on her back. She hardly even remembers the guy now....hmm

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I worked with a guy when I was in high school that did the tattoo ring thing. He took care of his with sand paper and salt.

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I just cant see getting something like that put on your body...why a name?? get a matching tattoo??

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allycat wrote:
How do you guys feel about this one tho.....


A coworker is dating a man thats recently divorced, he had his wedding band tatooed on his finger as well as wearing a wedding band. (needless to say his wife left him) Now he is a single man that still has that symbol of his love to another woman out for the world to see.


If it were me...I would ask him to have it removed. What do you guys think? She is struggling with this.
If it were me, I wouldn't have fallen for someone dumb enough to do that in the first place!  Sorry - I'm being mean.  I just.  Don't.  Get it.



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i think that sometimes we push expectations and changes upon people we care about.  first it's one thing, then another.  on the quest of finding (or creating) the "ideal mate", they end up not being the person we first (thought) we really cared about.

if this is a serious issue with her, then she needs to really look within her heart and decide what really matters to her and what she can live with or without.


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allycat wrote:

His issue with having it removed is that he is in the public eye in a christian community and has not come out to the public with being divorced.



 Well she needs to lose him- that is a joke. Christians believe that tattoos are sacrilegious anyway! ANd how is he gonna explain her and him being married???



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