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This was too weird to wait for the Weird Newz (which should be back April 23rd, by the way).

It does give new meaning to the phrase, "Go f*** yourself."

CHICAGO (Reuters) - A transgender man who kept his female reproductive organs despite his transformation is now five months pregnant and will appear on Oprah Winfrey's television show, the talk show said on Tuesday.

"I'm a person and I have the right to have my own biological child," Thomas Beatie, of Bend, Oregon, said in excerpts from the show, which airs on Thursday.

Sceptics questioned whether the story was an April Fool's hoax, but the Chicago-based talk show said Winfrey interviewed Beatie, his wife Nancy and their obstetrician along with friends of the couple. Beatie also did an interview with People magazine.

Beatie and his wife Nancy recount how she was unable to conceive because of a prior hysterectomy, according to the excerpts.

"If Nancy could get pregnant, I wouldn't be doing this," Beatie said.

The Hawaii-born Beatie, 34, related his struggles with various doctors along with family and friends in a letter published last week by The Advocate, a magazine for gays.

He had chest reconstruction surgery and began taking testosterone, wrote Beatie, who was formerly Tracy Lagondino.

Upon deciding to have a child, he halted bimonthly hormone injections and resumed menstruating, then artificially inseminated himself with anonymous donor sperm from a sperm bank. A first attempt failed.

"When my brother found out about my loss, he said, 'It's a good thing that happened. Who knows what kind of monster it would have been,'" Beatie recalled.

A second attempt was successful, and he expects to deliver a girl around July 3.

"Wanting to have a biological child is neither a male nor female desire, but a human desire," Beatie wrote.

(Reporting by Andrew Stern, editing by Patricia Zengerle)

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silly me for thinking the end of the world would be a quick process.... no.gif

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If he didn't look so much like a man I wouldn't have a hard time with this...but this guy looks like he never ever could have been a girl..... totally freaks me out!!

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I sure hope he plans on a c section.

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ok, i stayed up late last night to check this out on oprah. if you met this couple, you would never suspect he is really a woman. she is a good looking man... but my gosh! she was a BEAUTIFUL woman!

did anyone else catch this on oprah? if yes, what did you think?



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ok... no one wants to touch this one... so i'll toss in a couple pennies...

I think its good that they came forward with their story their way, before the media ripped them. I feel bad for them though, because now that they are out the media will hound them every minute of the day.
They mentioned moving away and going into hiding, but how will they be able to do that and live the normal lives theyre hoping for?
Some of the guys here were talking about it this morning and were really being harsh. It bothered me because I felt like they were basing their opinions only on the transgender part of the story.
I have a friend who went through the process of changing his gender from male to female. (Then is made sense to me why in high school when he asked me out on what I thought was a date he wrote Strictly Platonic in the note). Several summers ago on a visit home, I ran into her and we got together a few times. We talked about how the most disappointing thing about changing was losing friends who liked her until they found out that she had a sex change. And they based turning their back on her solely on that part of her life that had nothing to do with them in the first place. I asked her if she regretted the change, and she told me No, because I am being true to myself and this is whom I feel I should be.


sorry... should have specified which "here" i meant. the guys here at work... (they were saying some REALLY mean things)

not the guys here on the forum... sometimes i forget i'm really in two places at once...



and that's my 2 cents worth...

-- Edited by disco strangler at 13:38, 2008-04-04

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I don't really know enough about it to form an opinion. I see their reasoning for having a child, and I see his reasoning for being a man. It makes sense. But it's just so out of the ordinary, it's hard to accept. But as long as his wife is happy with the situation, I say good for them.

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this is the hot topic today at work it seems. I want it to go away.bleh

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You probably guessed that the person i feel the most sorry for is this baby he's, (she's) carrying inside of her. Think of how this will effect him or her, down the road. How would you like to see picture of your mother who is pregnant, and you are looking at your dad?? weirdface.gif Not to mention how cruel kids are in school.

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I don't know if I think this is such a big deal, even if it is unusual. I really do not believe there's anything wrong with the couple's pursuit of their dreams of a family. And how they educate and support the child will shape the kid's ability to cope in childhood socializations. Kids are cruel any way you slice it, the child will not necessarily be ostracized. Think about it - how many kids are functioning normally with gay or lesbian parents? With a father or mother who had a sex change after their birth? It's not quite as unusual anymore. I'm happy for the couple, even if it seems unorthodox to me.

-- Edited by garougal at 20:25, 2008-04-06

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I totally agree G-gal.  There are soooo many "different" families today than there ever were.....and I'm talking just during the 30 yrs I've been out of school.  As long as the child is told, which I'm sure he/she will be, and the parents and extended family members love the child, I don't think the kid will have all that many problems that he/she won't be able to deal with. 

Yeah kids can be cruel, heck they'll raze anybody just for the heck of it.  They don't need a specific reason to do so either...everybody's fair game when it comes to kids.

And so long as the couple is happy with their choice, go for it.  I don't think it's up to us to pass judgement.  Just my two cents. 

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Funny, reading this made me think of when I was a kid. Some of the kids used to call me "Japanese Dirty Knees" or "Pearl Harbor" and fake machine gun fire at me when they'd see me...and get away with it. The educational environment is not so tolerant of that type of nonsense anymore. Thank goodness! I think this kid has a better chance of an accepting environment than used to exist.



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Well, schools are doing a better job of stopping this type of stuff, but sad to say, it still goes on.  When I hear kids really getting on some other kid, I always step in and sometimes try to find a way to turn it around on them just to give them a taste of their own medicine.  It's not the way my school would prefer me to handle it, but sometimes you have to do this.....they just don't realize how hurtful their remarks really are until they've experienced themselves.  And I don't do this often.....just when I think the situation merits it. 

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SOmetimes it's the best lesson, whether a child or a grown-up...learn through personal experience. There's no more poignant a lesson as when you experience the other side of what you dish out, right?



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Exactly! 

And as a parent, I have really tried my best to teach my girls to be accepting of everyone, no matter their race, sexual preference, physical/mental handicap, religious beliefs, the whole shabang.  Individuality; who you are and what you believe in, what makes you...you, is sooo important to me.  It's what I base my life on, and I don't want my kids growing up with stereotypical views.  

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That's awesome Sandy. It is so hard not to fall into the trap of stereotyping - it has so many subtleties. By teaching your kids the difference and about individuality, they not only leanr to be more open but also are more likely to be aware when they might be making assumptive leaps.

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I think I'm succeeding; my kids and I are very open about many things.  We discuss anything they want to talk about.  Some people think I give my kids too much information, talk about things better left unsaid, but I just don't buy into that whole mentality.  From an early age, we've talked about stuff.  If they had a question, I found a way to explain it at an age appropriate level.  Sometimes I felt "uncomfortable" by things they asked, but I quickly learned that if I didn't tell them or answer their questions, someone else would.  I'd rather they learn from me.  smile

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