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AN ANSWER ON THE GUBMENT CHECKS


well here we go. I used turbo tax....do you think the IRS could have mentioned this beforehand????

To help boost the economy, the Bush administration has tried to put tax rebates in consumers' hands as fast as possible. Yet, hundreds of thousands of taxpayers who thought they would have their checks by now are still waiting for their money.

To date, the IRS has issued nearly 30 million stimulus checks, totaling more than $27 billion. The rebates range from $300 to $600 a person, or $1,200 for a married couple. Parents with dependent children are eligible for an additional $300 per child.

 

SAVERS COMING UP SHORT: The incredible shrinking nest egg

This is the first time the IRS has used direct deposit to deliver rebates a step intended to quickly pump money into the struggling economy. But several problems have delayed the process:

Taxpayers who applied for refund-anticipation loans or who had their e-filing fees deducted from their refunds won't receive their rebates by direct deposit, even if their regular tax refunds were delivered that way. Through April 17, more than 20 million taxpayers applied for such loans or had fees deducted from their refunds, according to IRS data.

Those taxpayers will have to wait for their checks to arrive by mail. The IRS is scheduled to mail rebate checks May 16 through July 11, based on taxpayers' Social Security numbers.

Allan Hurlock, 40, a systems engineer in Springfield, Pa., says he thought he would receive his rebate on May 9, based on the IRS schedule for direct deposit and his Social Security number. After numerous calls to the IRS, he finally reached someone who explained that his check would arrive by mail because the fees he paid TurboTax to e-file his tax return were deducted from his refund.

Taxpayers whose fees were deducted or who took out refund-anticipation loans are receiving paper checks because those loans involve a third-party bank account, the IRS says.

About 350,000 eligible households that have received rebates didn't receive the additional $300 payment for their children. In some cases, the extra payments were withheld because people failed to check a box on their tax return indicating to the IRS that their children were eligible, IRS spokesman Terry Lemons says. In other cases, the error occurred because a few tax software companies failed to provide the information the IRS needed to make the payments, Lemons says. The IRS plans to mail a "catch-up payment" to the parents by July.

Taxpayers who filed jointly with a spouse who doesn't have a Social Security number won't receive a rebate at all. They include thousands of legal residents whose spouses have applied for a Social Security number but haven't received one yet.

Faced with a deluge of phone calls, the IRS is urging taxpayers to go to its website, www.irs.gov, for more information. "We encourage people to be as patient as they can," Lemons says. "Calling on the phone won't help people get their payments any quicker."




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Oh, but there's more!:


That economic stimulus check you were expecting may have accidentally stimulated your neighbor's bank account. Newsday is reporting that 15,000 checks tumbled astray thanks to an IRS "computer programming glitch."

One local taxpayer, who asked not to be identified, reported that he had discovered an unexpected deposit of $1,800 in his bank account. He said a review of his bank records revealed that it was a deposit from the IRS bearing another taxpayer's Social Security number. He said he contacted the IRS and was told by an agent that the deposit was one of 15,000 misrouted checks sent out incorrectly as a result of a computer programming glitch.

[Internal Revenue Service spokesman Kevin McKeon] said he could not confirm that figure or that a computer problem was responsible.

The government will want its cash back, so don't giddily spend any unexpected stimulus money. Paper checks can be mailed back to the IRS, while those with direct deposit should report the error to their bank.

IRS: Some stimulus checks sent to wrong accounts [Newsday]

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CAN THIS GODDAMN GOVERNENMENT DO ANYTHING RIGHT!?!?!??!? TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN ITS PROVEN THAT IT CAN'T.

BE IT FAR FROM ME TO COMPLAIN OR COMPARE, BUT, DURING SLICK WILLY'S REIGN, I HAD A 401K THAT MADE MONEY. I HAD A BRIGHT FUTURE IN TECHNOLOGY THAT ACTUALLY NEEDED GRADS. WE WEREN'T IN A WAR. GAS WAS AS LOW AS 98 CENTS A GALLON. I AM SCARED FOR THIS NATION. I THINK WE'RE ****ED BUT ITS A SLOW WIMPERING DEATH.furious.gif

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TO WIT:

The war on terror became an excuse for GW to show his daddy he could finish off Saddamn

Gas is now $4.00 a gallon. what. the. ****.

New Orleans is still ****ed.

When slick willy left office, there was NO FEDERAL DEFICIT. The surplus was to save social security. Now this Ass Clown wants to do away with social security and have us personally invest that money in stocks???? HELLO BUTT WEED I LOST 10.25% of my investments last quarter. WTF????

There is no end in site to the victorious war in Iraq. OMFG.

Ok, so as an apology for a **** regime, we all supposed to get paid off. They can't even do that right.

I am a dissatisfied customer. I want my money back. fine, good, yes I will move out then. I probably could so comfortably with the money you tax me each and every paycheck!!!furious.gif

For that kind of taxation, I demand competence. We don't have that. I want my money back. Oh wait, there was a "computer glitch", wasn't there.....furious.gif

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Wow, you may really need to take a Valium JD.

I won't even bother making any counterpoints because I don't want to be responsible for your heart attack.

But I will say this.  I just told Jennifers Dad today that I wondered when I'd hear the first liberal try to blame the IRS incompetence on Bush.  You didn't do it directly, but I think the intent was there, so you win the prize.  smile.gif

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I am one DISSATISFIED CUSTOMER, MR. And we both know we are on the same page regarding being taxed.wink.gif


my concern is for all those people who banked on getting that money when the gubment said they would. Now there's all these post-date "but, but, buts".

I'm with MzHartz. I'll believe it when I see it. blankstare.gif

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I view it like this, Riggs.

Regarding my work, I have several vendors that I depend on to keep their commitments so I can get my job done to keep my customers happy. If a vendor drops the ball, I can't go to my customer and go "so & so dropped the ball, so they're the reason I can't deliver your goods on time as I had promised". The customer could care less about what the reason is, or who I am blaming to make excuses for me not carrying through on my commitment. All they know is that they don't have what they were promised when they were promised it.

So the IRS is the $ vendor for Bush, in charge of delivering the money he said would even be sent out early. I bet you $10 of stimulous money (should it ever arrive) that the backlash is gonna go directly to him, and he is gonna point his fingers at the IRS and go "blame them, don't blame me." I can't do that at my job. The Prez shouldn't be able to do that either.

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OH AND DID YOU BRING YOUR LIFE SIZED GW BUSH CUT OUT PIC TO NC TOO!?!?rofl.gif

-- Edited by JD The Jazz Doctor at 21:13, 2008-05-17

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Ahh but JD.  You're comparing apples to Orangatangs here.

You're essentially a tiny part of a big company, and the sh*t rolls to you.  You're right, you can't blame it on someone else (although I'm sure on occassion you do ("Customer Service didn't get the work to me on time", "We ran out of stock for this job, the warehouse manager screwed up", etc.)  Valid excuses perhaps, but no different than Bush telling the IRS what he wants them to do and having them bungle it.

Furthermore, unlike you, Bush is the head of the biggest corporation in the world.  No one can expect him to micromanage every aspect of the government.  Untilmately responsibility falls on the senate to police all the aspects of government and enact changes as needed so that it runs smoothly.  The senate by the way is now controlled by the Democrats.

But this isn't about who the president is or who controls the senate.  It's about a group of people no different than you or I trying to complete a massive project that was thrust upon them.

I would submit to you that ANY company in the world would have snafus equal to if not bigger than what the IRS has had.

How many times at Image did we make MAJOR errors?
 
I'm not making excuses for the IRS, I'm just pointing out that on the back end they're just human beings like the rest of us, and they aren't perfect.


One other thought because I just HAVE to point it out. 

In regards to your investments.  I feel for your losses.  10% is a lot to lose in a quarter.  But anyone will tell you your retirement investments are best looked at long term, and short of an Enron style swindling you WILL make a huge profit on your money by the time you retire.

I would imagine that even now you haven't lost a dime of your money, it's just a matter of your profit not being as big as it was three months ago (If I'm wrong then I'm REALLY sorry for your loss).

The very fact that we live in a country where you can expect your money to earn more money by merely investing in companies is incredible. 

Remember, you're playing the game.  You can win or lose at it, but you're in bed with the corporations when you invest.  You can't rip them a new one on one hand and then take your cash payout on the other.  Well, you can, but it's kind of hypocritical.

Alright, I'm off my soapbox for now.  But it's always nearby wink.gif

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I am ALWAYS low on money or have NO money at all. I am stressed every month on how I am going to pay bills, just like millions of other people. This stimulus (even in its smallest amount) would be VERY helpful.


I was very upset Friday when I didn't get my check as promised. However, I think that we all need to remember that this money is a bonus for us. The government didn't have to give us anything. The stimulus package is like someone calling you up and saying, "Hey, I am going to give you $600 and you don't have to pay me back!" I guess that I need to stop complaining about when they decide to give it to mehmm

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Well I am totally screwed! We filed with Turbo Tax and of course you have the fees deducted from the total! I don't care if this wasn't money we had to get! They failed to to tell us some things and now people are being screwed! Perhaps they shouldn't have said anything then no one would have expected anything! Now we will have to beg my mother in law for some money for the move because we will now get our money until about July 4th!!!!! That is quite a difference! THANKS SO MUCH!!!! angered.gif

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I guess I just went into this expecting it to be a mess. hmm.gif

The IRS sending out 130 million checks and direct deposits, I didn't have high hopes for smooth sailing smile.gif I'm not even scheduled to get my check until mid to late June, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Riggs don't you want a democrat in office this time around!? I mean I have bitched and bitched and bitched for the last 7 yrs at least!! YOUR TURN, MY MAN!!biggrin.gif

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lol.

You know JD, we've talked about this before. I BELIEVE in our system and think we need the Dems and the Republicans to balance each other out.


I can't vote for a Democrat, but I wouldn't shed too many tears if a Democrat were to take office for four years.


Problem is I can't stand Hilary, and don't think she's got a shot of winning anyway. And now Obama, who I was secretly hoping was the next JFK has lost my confidence with his habit of being two face.

That whole thing where he told the Canadians not to pay attention to his debate rhetoric on NAFTA because it was "only politics" bugged me, but I was willing to assume it was a he said / they said type of miscommunication.

When he pulled that crap a month ago in Pennsylvania, telling people "off the record" that republicans run to their religion and guns when they're scared I really lost respect for him.

I still believe, like him or hate him, George Bush tells you what he believes and then he follows through on it. Polls truly mean nothing to the man. I admire that in a person.

Not to say he can't be wrong, he's been wrong plenty. But I believe he is doing what he thinks is right and I don't feel he's ever mislead me. (Don't bring up WMD because EVERYONE thought they existed, not just GW).

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Truthfully I think this election is going to be very interesting because of a couple of reasons.  I don't believe most Americans are ready to put a woman or a man of color into the Oval Office.  I've heard too many people say this very same thing. I also think many people are dissatisified with the way the country's been run, especially the last four years, so I think a lot of "die hard" Republicans might be thinking of jumping ship this time around, and the Democrats are surely sick of the Republican party, but who the heck are they gonna put in office??....another Republican, a woman, or a man of color (even though that shouldn't matter)? 

I am really undecided at this point how/who I'm going to vote for, and I can honestly say this is a first for me.  hmm

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I gottta tell you, I do admire John McCain. To be a POW like that and bounce back successfully. I read his autobiography a few years ago and was really in awe of him and all the torture he went through. I might have actually voted for him this year if the last 8 years weren't the most messed up of years in US modern history.

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Exactly JD.....the economy is only getting worse with each passing day, and no one seems to have a do-able answer on how to fix this mess that's been happening for the last 8 years.  

My dad is a die-hard Democrat, always was, always will be, but he's finding himself in a quandry right now.  He doesn't want a woman running the country (he's dead set against that whole idea for many reasons, none of which make any sense to me).  He's also against putting a man of color into office......he's highly prejudiced and always has been.  And he's dead-set against the Republicans.  So he's having a royal fit right now over the candidates.

And unfortunately, many people I've talked politics with are pretty much saying the same things as my dad, no matter if they're right or wrong on their thinking.....it's how they feel. 


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I know a lot of woman who are voting for Hillary just because she's a woman. I don't think that's right either.

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I think its pretty radical that both a woman & a man of color are, at the same time, the 2 candidates vying for the ticket. In many ways its exciting too. I'd honestly love to see how either one would run the country. Somethins got to change. How about a woman or a man of color in the office? Lets see what happens!

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I too think it's pretty radical to have two "controversial" candidates on the Democratic ticket......it's going to be really interesting to see what happens no matter who wins the nomination. 



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I think the leadership of our country is too important to vote (or not vote) for someone on a whim just to see what happens.

For me, Hillary being a woman and Barack being black have absolute not bearing on my decision.

My only opposition about a woman president is with our foreign policy. How many other country leaders will be unwilling or uncomfortable working with a woman? Not that its right, but I think its just the way it is and that should be considered. If you are running a business and are trying to land a big contract with an important client, you want to send someone who you think will fit in best with the client.

My problem with Hillary is that she is a liar. She has proven multiple times that she's not afraid to lie to us. This is not excusable to me.

My problem with Barack is the same kinds of things JR mentioned . . . talking out of both sides of his mouth at the same time.

My problem with McCain is that he has a record of being a "hot head" . . . we need someone with self control who will lead sensibly not based on his temper or emotions of the moment.

I wish I had another significant choice.




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You've just stated my exact thoughts Web.  I wish there was someone else to vote for. 

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Ralph Nader?

lol if he were elected, you couldn't cut down that plant that gave you the rash web, you'd have to plant 3 more like it.biggrin.gif

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Too bad Mr. Nader . . . now that they have leafed out, I found a few more of those sumac plants in the hedge. I'm about to go Rambo on those suckers with some chemical warfare.





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Jeremy Riggs wrote:

Wow, you may really need to take a Valium JD.

I won't even bother making any counterpoints because I don't want to be responsible for your heart attack.

But I will say this.  I just told Jennifers Dad today that I wondered when I'd hear the first liberal try to blame the IRS incompetence on Bush.  You didn't do it directly, but I think the intent was there, so you win the prize.  smile.gif



Seriously Riggsy, did you really need to throw around the "liberals" stereotype again? laughing.gif I think we need to lock you in a room and pipe in Henry Rollins' spoken word for a few hours just for saying that! idea



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JR sure wouldn't want to discuss politics with me if he thinks JD is "liberal", haha.  I'd love to have an in-depth discussion with him though, but a forum isn't the place for that to happen.  biggrin

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Jeremy Riggs wrote:

Wow, you may really need to take a Valium JD.

I won't even bother making any counterpoints because I don't want to be responsible for your heart attack.

But I will say this. I just told Jennifers Dad today that I wondered when I'd hear the first liberal try to blame the IRS incompetence on Bush. You didn't do it directly, but I think the intent was there, so you win the prize. smile.gif



Seriously Riggsy, did you really need to throw around the "liberals" stereotype again? laughing.gif I think we need to lock you in a room and pipe in Henry Rollins' spoken word for a few hours just for saying that! idea

 




 smile.gif  I know, I can't help myself.  I just like to tweak JD a lil' now and then and I know the liberal tag drives him nuts smile.gif


I really think Hilary can't win because she's too polarizing.  Much like a lot of people hate Bush because he's Bush, A LOT of people hate Hilary because she's Hilary. 

My fear with Obama was that a lot of racists who ordinarily might stay home on election day would come out to vote against him.

I think Obama has some of the right ideas, and I think this country needs an infusion of faith in itself again.  But his far left leanings scare the hell out of me, and the above mentioned issues are the icing on the cake.

A year ago I was sure the Republicans would lose the White House this fall, now I'm sure we'll keep it.

McCain is just enough in the middle that I think a lot of Dems will vote for him.  He's actually the perfect candidate for the Republicans at the moment.  But we'll need a hell of a good Vice President, because McCain is surely a one term guy.

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ghostdancer wrote:

JR sure wouldn't want to discuss politics with me if he thinks JD is "liberal", haha.  I'd love to have an in-depth discussion with him though, but a forum isn't the place for that to happen.  biggrin




Hahaha! You and me both Sandy...if JD is such a liberal me and my family would make Riggs' head explode! laughing.gif



-- Edited by garougal at 22:32, 2008-05-18

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I'm not a liberal. I'm just a left leaning disgruntled conservative. a *** *** *** ****** ****** dusgruntled conservative.smile.gif

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I love to debate politics with anyone that can do it and still remain friends.

It fascinates me how different our views can be even though we all can be so much alike in so many other ways.

I'm sure Heather, Ghost and I could debate and still be cool with each other. We're all pretty level headed. Even you liberals wink.gif

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