He might surprise you D. I don't know what to think about her yet.

Jeremy Riggs wrote:

---

I know most won't believe this, but we could both be Independents on the ticket. I have only one Republican value I refuse to budge from and I think everyone knows what that is.

Everything else is up for grabs. The bottom line is if something makes sense, is for the betterment of the country as a whole, and is feasible, let's give it a try.

I think you'd be surprised at how much we actually agreed on MZ. Where we may disagree is on how to go about getting those things done. But if we're willing to be flexible and keep our eyes on the desired final result I bet we'd do just fine.

---

I think we agree a lot on fiscal issues.  It's the social ones we'd have to work on.  I see it now, "Riggs/Hartz 2016"!

 

anti gay marriage


Why does anyone really have to take a stand on this...especially us "straight" people.
A Civil Union is legal in Massachusetts, and it was made legal when Mitt Romney was Governer, I am not sure this should be even a reason to pick a candidate for VP.. actually we don't pick the VP but you know what I mean. We pick the President.



-- Edited by darleneapd at 13:10, 2008-08-29

darleneapd wrote:

---

anti gay marriage


Why does anyone really have to take a stand on this...especially us "straight" people.
A Civil Union is legal in Massachusetts, and it was made legal when Mitt Romney was Governer, I am not sure this should be even a reason to pick a candidate for VP.. actually we don't pick the VP but you know what I mean. We pick the President.



-- Edited by darleneapd at 13:10, 2008-08-29

---

This is what gets me in trouble.

I make a statement about what I think and I get challenged on it.

Which, is fine with me, I don't mind explaining myself, but when I reply to the challenge with my honest opinion, someone will inevitably get pissed or offended with my opinion.

So, rather than going there, I think I'll head home and start packing up kites and prepare for a fun weekend instead.

 

But I think this fur would be better looking on the animal it came from and not Sarah Palin.

speaking of LS I just changed my Avatar for her.

i eat meat too, so I guess this is not appropriate to define my true avatar..... but I miss LS.

WebGuy wrote:

---

After watching Palin speak at the convention last night, I'm even more convinced that she's a good choice for VP. I think she did and excellent job delivering her speech. Whoever believes she can't hold her own, go back and watch her speech.

The liberal media in this country is making me sick this morning. Watching the CBS early show as I was getting ready for work was pathetic. They had all kinds of "professionals" in to analyze her . . . not the content her speech . . . not her plans for energy . . . not her plans for taxes . . . nothing like that . . . just her, her husband, and her family personally. They had a "body language expert" on to talk about her. They did a segment about how her husband would be such a fish out of water if she gets VP. They even had Dr. Phil come in to analyze her family.

I saw NONE of that after the Democratic convention. They didn't call Dr. Phil in to dissect Joe Biden after he spoke. They didn't even mention Biden's wife that I ever saw. They didn't even do any of that for Obama.

It appears to me that the liberals are scared of Mrs. Palin . . . and not of what she plans to do in office . . . but Mrs. Palin herself.





-- Edited by WebGuy at 08:25, 2008-09-04

---

Palin is such a controversial choice, Biden wasn't much of a surprise.  I think that's the main difference.  She is the news right now, everyone else is saying what they're expected to say.

But that sort of stuff is the reason I'm really avoiding any political reporting right now.  I hate political analysts.  When I was listening to talk radio in the mornings, I remember one time they had a clip of something Hilary Clinton said.  Then they had an interview with a political analyst who "translated" what she said.  It was stupid and made me mad.  (And I'm not a Hilary supporter.)

I try not to even watch the commentators the next day. I think if you really wanted to you could make a game out of it and write down what you believe they'll say and see how close you can come.

Even last night after the speech, my first disappointment is that several of my friends who are Democrats didn't watch. They've set their mind on Obama/Biden and refused to hear Palin. That's exactly why we're as divided as we are.

I TRY to watch both sides and I did watch Obama. He made some good points and I've told MANY people that while I can't vote for him and hope he doesn't win, I can support him as President, because if he wins he WILL BE my President too. Nowadays there is no respect for the office of President and far to many people just hope and pray for failure if their party isn't the one to win office.

My next disappointment was listening to the post-speech wrap-up where they keep going to Democratic strategists for their opinion on the speech. Well DUH, what do you THINK they're going to say? "Oh yeah, Sarah really made some valid points in her criticism of our candidate. I think she gave America something to think about tonight, maybe people will want to consider voting Republican?"

OF COURSE not. They're going to say the exact same things they always do. They could have their responses written out (in fact they probably do) before the speech even takes place. They just have to throw in a few references so they appear to have listened.

Republicans are no different. It's the way politics works today.

What gets my goat is that most people are too busy to read up and learn about the candidates, so they take what they're fed by their favorite news organization. I can't tell you how many times family and friends have talked to me about politics and I could identify the specific news blurb they had based their entire political viewpoint on. It's disheartening.

Last night after the speach MSNBC.com, a notably liberal news source, did what I consider a watered down version of push polling on their site (to be sure foxnews.com would have done the same thing).

They took a poll among their predominantly liberal readership (an opinion I base on the fact that previous poll results and user comments always skew heavily to the left) and asked the question "How do you think Sarah Palin did in her speech tonight?"

It's a simple question, it requires a simple answer. 1) Good, 2) Poorly or 3) Not sure.

But instead their poll subtly raises the points THEY want you to think about. The options were...

1) Yes. Her speech proves she is ready for an all-out fight.

2) No. She spent too much time trying to mock Obama.

3) It remains to be seen what she can do on the campaign trail without a teleprompter and speech writer.

The choices don't need to tell the viewer what they just watched, but they try to. It's subtle but I think it's important and sad. You could say NO, she didn't do well, for a myriad of reasons, but the good folks at MSNBC were kind enough to narrow the choice down for you to that one point. In the meantime making sure you leave their site with that thought in mind.

Same with #3, they make their subtle point of "Don't forget, these aren't her words here folks, if you were impressed by them, they came from a speech writer and a teleprompter".

Of course, the same is true of every political candidate since the teleprompter was invented. But that's not the message they wish to deliver.

I"m sure on this poll stuff a lot of you will think I'm nuts. And I'm not as good at explaining my view in print as I am in person. But I strongly believe both sides are out of control with their slanted reporting, and polls like this are an example of it.

By the way, regardless of how they worded it, 57% have said she did well. So it didn't work, but it still leaves every single respondent with those two thoughts in their head.

-- Edited by Jeremy Riggs at 09:54, 2008-09-04

I agree exactly JR. It skews the poll. It doesn't make it a fair or scientific survey.

I'll give you another not nuts vote.

I watched Palin's speech last night. I thought she handled it well, but I agree... her speech writers did a good job. I'd like to hear what she has to say for herself. I did feel a little more comfortable that she is a good choice, but time will tell. I've been reading up on her aside from what the talking heads on TV have to say. She seems pretty tough, which I absolutely respect.


I don't think you are nuts either. The polls are definitely slanted by the way they word the inquiry and the responses.

Almost, huh JR. I can't watch Barrack Bin Laden, he makes me vomit.

It's always a more powerful message when it comes from someone who served, there's no doubt.

I was already in McCain's camp so it doesn't sway me because I needed no swaying. But I have to say that at this point in politics I think all anyone hears from the other side anymore is "blah blah blah".

The one thing that's become more and more clear to me over the years is that you really will never get the two sides of this country to agree.

For every proud soldier you throw out there they'll throw one out who's bitter and angry.

I've been reading MSNBC.com a lot and have seen a lot of Democratic unrest over the fact we invoked 9/11 at the Republican convention. It's unimaginable to me how you could have a political convention in 2008 and NOT have 9/11 still be a huge part of it.

But the other side insists that it's fear-mongering and that Republicans use the attacks to keep Americans scared and voting Republican.

American's SHOULD still be scared. There's an entire population of the world that would like to slit your throat before you get a chance to introduce yourself.

The fact the Democrats can turn concern over 9/11 and the possibility of another one somewhere down the road into a negative is all the evidence I need that we will NEVER see eye to eye.

What's probably even sadder is the fact I sat here with this post UNSENT for five minutes while I thought about whether I wanted to bother posting it and take the risk of starting a day long debate.

It's for that reason that I vow this is my only political post of the day