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Funny, I don't feel rich


Make $32K? You're in the richer 50%

Other new IRS data: While the top 1% of US earners, collectively, make nearly twice that of the bottom 50%, those at the top also pay 13 times more in individual income taxes combined.

By Kiplinger's Personal Finance Magazine

With the presidential election right around the corner, what better time to take a fresh look at how the nation's tax bill is distributed among its citizens?

After all, no matter what the conditions -- war or peace, prosperity or recession -- no issue seems to get under voters' skins more or command more attention from politicians than whether taxes will rise or fall and, frankly, whose ox will be gored.

New statistics from the Internal Revenue Service show that the highest-earning 1% of taxpayers in America make 22.06% of all income reported to the government. That's almost twice the 12.51% of total income earned collectively by the lowest-earning 50% of workers. Yes, 1.4 million taxpayers claim 22% of income earned while 68 million share just 12.5%.

But get this: When it comes to taxes paid, an even wider discrepancy shows itself, in reverse. Those earners in the top 1% pay 39.89% of all federal individual income taxes. The bottom 50% of earners pay just 2.99% of those taxes.

These income and tax-burden breakdowns come from information reported on 2006 individual income-tax returns, the latest of which have been analyzed by the government. Income categories are based on adjusted gross income (AGI), which is basically salary plus investment, rental and business income minus investment losses and expenses such as alimony paid, contributions to retirement plans, moving expenses and a few other costs.

This is the first time that the bottom half of taxpayers have paid less than 3% of the total income-tax bill.

(Note that these figures include only federal income taxes. According to one study, 56% of all wage earners pay more in Social Security and Medicare taxes than they do in income tax, and the percentage soars to 86% if you count both the employer and employee shares of those taxes.)

In 1986, the top 1% of earners reported 11% of all income and paid 26% of the income taxes; the lower-earning 50% made 17% of the income and paid 6% of the nation's individual income-tax bill.

How does your income stack up?

The data also make it easy for you to know how your income stacks up against that of your fellow citizens. The numbers show that an income of $31,988 or more puts you in the top half of taxpayers. Earning a bit more than twice that much -- $64,703 -- places you among the top 25% of all wage earners. You crack the elite top 10% if you earn $108,905 or more.

And $388,807 buys top bragging rights: Earn that much or more, and you're among the top 1% of all American earners.

A Kiplinger calculator quickly shows you -- based on your AGI -- which income category you fall into and what percentage of the nation's tax burden is borne collectively by you and your fellow citizens in that category.

The following table shows the percentage of income earned and tax burden paid by people in each income category:

Measuring the tax burden
Income category 2006 AGI % of all income % of income taxes paid

Top 1%

$388,807 or more

22%

40%

Top 5%

$153,543 or more

37%

60%

Top 10%

$108,905 or more

47%

71%

Top 25%

$64,703 or more

68%

86%

Top 50%

$31,988 or more

88%

97%

Bottom 50%

$31,987 or less

13%

3%



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Wow, I'm poor.  Not by much, but Brian makes less than I do.

-- Edited by MzHartz at 15:06, 2008-10-03

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Wow that is shocking, but someone that make 30 here does much better than someone making 30 in Chicago!

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Good point Ruby. Compared to what other people around here make, I didn't think I'd be on the bottom.

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CRIPES! Someone forgot to tell me I'm rich!! shocked.gif

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yea I thought that way, it was a bit deceptive. what is the purchasing power in your area? Even from Milwaukee to Chicago, the change is huge. Its like $40,000 here needs to be $60,000 there....

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Our cost of living is pretty low in this area as compared to other places. I know I make decent money, but I have a hard time with the concept that I'm actually wealthy.

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Our cost of living is skewed. It's one of the big downsides to living in a college town. And I'll admit, when trying to make ends meet, I do feel poor.

Here, we have an abundance of qualified workers from the people who just don't leave after college.

But, since so much of the town is rentals, property tax and just the cost of a house is high. Before we moved down here, we were looking to buy a small house in Mishawaka (the town next to and practically part of South Bend) in the ran in the $30,000 to $45,000 range (in 2000). I had a friend buy a house of the same size in Bloomington right before the housing bust for $120,000 and he thought it was a deal.

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the printing company that riggs and I worked for back in the 90s consolidated facilities in South Bend, IN and closed the Milwaukee plant. People from Milwaukee were invited to go down to South Bend and have a look around and see if they'd like it. there'd be a chance of a position for them down there. I don't think anyone went tho...hmm

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Housing costs are really subjective anyway. In the county where Pambo and I live, prices are actually higher than anywhere else around here. My same house on the Missouri side of the state line would likely cost $30K - $40K less. Around here, it's all about which zipcode you live in.

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The sad thing is no matter how much we have it is never enough.

Human nature is a very interesting thing.

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Human nature... you can't have everything cuz where would you put it? wink.gif

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In your folks attic biggrin

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HAHAHA... good one!

I heard a saying that I really like: Happiness isn't found in having what you want, it's found in wanting what you have.

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Mad Mema wrote:

HAHAHA... good one!

I heard a saying that I really like: Happiness isn't found in having what you want, it's found in wanting what you have.



How true is that!

Maybe they should include that on our money!

 



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If the cost of living wouldn't keep going up, I'd be cool with what I make. Problem is that maintaining the stuff that I have is getting cost oppressive.

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Its that whole attachment to food AND shelter...

But as they say...dare to dream.

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Sorry, man... I'm all about the indoor living. Not passing out from hunger RULES!

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I'm telling you...we need to start a commune. Our cost of living would go down dramatically!biggrin.gif

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When this country can send Ted Kennedy's fat ass to Ethiopia to investigate world hunger...

There is a good chance there will be a double cheese burger in every pot.

If there werent, Ted Kennedy would start looking like a big ol' pork chop!

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Pambo wrote:

I'm telling you...we need to start a commune. Our cost of living would go down dramatically!biggrin.gif




Oh yeah... didn't we start formulating that plan a while ago?

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Do you guys need a commune band?

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Of course we do. Hippies gotta dance, man.

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You bet! Music goes well with a campfire. smile.gif

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JD, it would seem that "middle class" is now somewhere around the $150,000.00 mark, according to the vp debate.weirdface

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