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Hey M! smile

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Hey! How goes your evening?

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Kinda pooped tonight.

All that Uranus talk wears a guy out.

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giggle.gif I can see where it might. I got watching one of my favorite movies..."Delores Claiborne". Watching "Rendition" now.

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What is Rendition about?  Who is in it?

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Jake Gyllenhaal, Meryl Streep, Peter Sarsgaard, Alan Arkin, Reese Witherspoon... Its about an Egyptian born chemical engineer married to an American woman who was flying back from South Africa to the US and gets picked up by the CIA after a terrorist attack that kills a CIA agent. He is basically the subject of "extraordinary rendition" because his is believed to be a terrorist. His wife is trying to find him while a guy who was with the dead CIA agent when he was killed is forced to interrogate him.

This is based on a real life story of an extraordinary rendition done on a telecommunications engineer who had dual citizenship between Syria and Canada.

-- Edited by Mad Mema at 22:39, 2008-12-10

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See!  Those canadians are insidious. wink

Is it any good?

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I dunno... never seen it before. So far, it is kind of creepy. Dude gets off the plane in DC and gets nabbed before he gets out of the jetway, his luggage gets seized, and he finds himself shackeled and being questioned. His name is deleted from the passenger manifest, so the airline keeps telling his wife he was not on the plane.

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I think the point the movie is probably trying to make is that the Patriot Act has actually stripped us of alot of personal freedoms...especially the right to Due Process.

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It is a heavy critique on the practice of extraordinary rendition.

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I am not familiar with that.  I think I can infer the meaning, but maybe you can sum it up for me?

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It is the practice of seizing a person and taking them to another country, and turning them over to another government for imprisonment and interrogation. No due process, no courts, no warrants... just poof, be gone. It is allowed under the Patriot Act.

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Scary.  Especially if you did nothing wrong.

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I can see where it would be. Lots of scary things happen in this world. The funny thing is that the Patriot Act gets tagged for allowing this, but the practice actually started long before... under the Clinton administration.

Just the facts...not stating an opinion on the Patriot Act or anything like that.

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Interesting. weirdface.gif

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W didn't start a lot of this stuff. He is just getting the credit for it because he took a more generous interpretation of some things that were already being done.

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Executive orders are another constitutional end run Presidents have been using more and more in the last 30 years.

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You are correct.

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Mad Mema wrote:

You are correct.



 Wow...that revelation should be followed by trumpet blasts and confetti streamers. biggrin



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Sorry, my friend... I have my opinions on such things... just not shilling them out here on the forum.

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I competely understand.

You are a bright, informed individual and those are conversations I enjoy

having and would enjoy having with you.  Perhaps a different venue.



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In a different venue for sure. It's an interesting topic to discuss.

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I lobby for cancun biggrin

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That would be a fan-freakin-tastic location for any conversation. nod.gif

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Yup, because snow is so overrated.

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A little tired of the winter wonderland, are you?

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That transparent?

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I can see where it would get old in a hurry. I have about a one day tollerance and appreciation for snow.

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Looks good from a picture window, but venture out in it and it loses its appeal.

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Pretty until the snow plows come through. hmm.gif

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