I thought this article gave an interesting, and new, perspective to video games and boys:
Keeping violent media away from boys could be a bad idea
We've all heard the argument repeated by pundits and politicians in the post-Columbine era: teens who play violent video games are at an extreme risk of being corrupted by the violent media they're exposed to. It's a theory that certainly seems to resonate with concerned parents in particular. After all, no one wants to knowingly endanger their child's mental well-being, especially with something that seems like an innocent pastime. But in an argument that will probably make game critics' heads explode, a new book believes that young boys who are struggling in school may need more exposure to violent media in order to do better. The author of The Trouble With Boys, Peg Tyre, claims that the recent anti-violence efforts of the past decade are actually doing more to hinder boys' development than help them.
The idea for the book began when Tyre, a senior writer for Newsweek at the time, wrote a 2006 cover story for the magazine called, "Boy Crisis." The article focused on how boys were falling behind in school and what educational institutions were doing to address the issue. The figures are certainly worrying, according to Tyre: "Boys get expelled from preschool at four times the rates of girls," she writes. "They are prescribed the lion's share of ADHD medication, they get most of the C's and D's in middle school, and they drop out of high school more than girls. Currently, only 43% of undergraduates in the United States are men." So what's the solution? Tyre's suggestion is simple enough: let boys be boys by simply letting them engage in the aggressive fantasies that come to them naturally.
It's a unique perspective, to be sure, and one that will definitely make readers sit up and take notice, since it seems so diametrically opposed to conventional wisdom. When you stop to think about it, though, Tyre's argument seems to make a fair amount of sense. If you've been around schools or youth organizations recently, perhaps you've seen how even playfully aggressive behavior is often demonized by both parents and other adults. A case in point from my own experience: when I served as an assistant scoutmaster for my Boy Scout troop at a summer camp in 2003, a number of parents complained about the fact that the Rifle and Shotgun Shooting merit badges were available as part of the camp's curriculum. They believed that teaching teenage boys the standard safety, care, and operation of firearms was wrong.
Five years earlier, such complaints were unheard of, even in a suburb directly over the hill from Berkeley. This attitude, though, seems to have permeated the entire country.
Tyre stresses that many boys relate to violence no matter what their background is. "It doesn't matter whether Mormons in Utah or lesbians in Cambridge are raising boys. Many of them play and think around violence," Tyre said during a recent talk with a group of parents in North Salem, NY. "We might see them as doing something potentially dangerous. But actually what they're doing is playing around with ideas of courage and valor, good versus evil, and teamwork. These are ideas we want to inculcate in our culture."
Tyre believes that this anti-violence paranoia really started to spring up in the mid-to-late 1990s, when a number of high-profile school shootings received so much media attention that it overwhelmed common sense. "There was such media saturation about [events like Columbine] that it seemed to people that it was happening in their communities next door, [and] it created a zero tolerance policy towards violence," she told Ars. "These morphed into a zero-tolerance policy towards aggression. That sounds good in theory, but it sometimes means that things like running and playing 'Tag' on the playground are discouraged."
As a result, "we're in this placeas a culturewhere smart, right-thinking parents discourage their sons from violence," Tyre said. "It's perfectly normal for little boys to think and talk around violence; it doesn't mean they're going to be violent."
Video games are a useful outlet for these fantasies and a good tool for stimulating mental growth, particularly due to the roles their players assume. "You're often playing a heroic role," Tyre explained, before adding, "I think that sense of heroism has been around since Greek drama. If you want to get into violence, look at The Odyssey or The Iliad. Homer's stories are very violent but we regard them with less suspicion."
However, Tyre didn't really believe games had much redeeming value when she first started writing her book's chapter about the subject. "I started off, admittedly, as a video game hater," she chuckled when I asked her about how she perceived the role of video games in children's development. She went on to explain that her initial opinions were based on how unsettling it was to watch her teenage sons play violent games in her living room. "[The content of violent games feels like] carnage in my living room: I didn't like that they played for hours at a time and that it was hard to get them to take a break I was prepared to write a very negative chapter about video games."
From a parent's perspective, it's understandable that Tyre distrusted video games; especially since she, like so many adults, consulted the widely-referenced On Killing by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman, which paints an image of games as training grounds for future killers. "When Grossman's book was published in 1995 crime rates of all kinds, including juvenile crime, were at an all-time high," Tyre's video game chapter explains. "The nation was groping for a way to explain the high school killings dominating the headlines. Authoritative and well informed, Grossman provided a plausible explanation for the unexplainable."
What made Tyre give gaming a second chance, though, were her sons. After coming home from a trip to Seattle where she attended a support group for video game addicts she had a pretty negative opinion games in general. However, her sons asked her to play some games with them before she finalized her judgment. "I sat down and played Halo with them, and while I saw that it's very violent, I also saw that it's a very condensed form of violence so I started to take a different view about video games: maybe I should be a little less hysterical about them." The other thing that helped change her view on games was an examination of the evidence that had surfaced after Grossman's book was published. As Ben Kuchera recently pointed out, youth crimes have decreased while violent games have sold in increasingly large numbers. Since On Killing came out, crimes like murder, rape, and robbery among young men has dropped significantly. "I don't think [Grossman's assertions] are true. I think Dr. Grossman, who is very smart and had done a lot of research, was wrong about this."
While Tyre's point of view probably isn't going to do much to change the opinion of those who are dead-set against violent video games in general, her fascinating theory might just make some concerned parents sit back and reconsider excluding violent media from their sons' lives completely. Of course, no one thinks that letting a nine-year-old play Grand Theft Auto is a good idea, but letting a young teen have a go at Halo might not be as bad as it has been made out to be. Hopefully, by getting society to lighten up a little on these zero-tolerance policies, the academic and creative development of young men might get back on track. "I think if we don't start thinking about [the issue] a little more seriously," said Tyre, "it's not going to change."
First off, way too much reading. Remember, I too am a boy. Second, good old fashioned violence is where it's at. My major influences are The Three Stooges, Bugs Bunny, Felix the Cat, Batman and James West. Sure, I fantasize about getting violent on people/things. I'm not good at it because I understand the consequences of being violent. I've had the junk knocked out of me a couple of times. I've seen plenty folks beat up, shot etc. Nothing was virtual. It was real. Bunch of pussies. (Clint Eastwood, Gran Torino)
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Since I work in a school setting, I've seen first-hand what happens to boys roughhousing on the playground.....most get an in school suspension for doing so. Is it warranted? I don't think so; I think they've over-reacted to boys being boys at play. Fighting should earn a one day ISS, but normal "boy" play shouldn't. Schools have over-reacted so much that even a game of tag is no longer allowed on most school playgrounds. I might get slammed for this comment, but in a way the schools have been/are sissyfying boys.....they're not allowed to be boys.
oh, Ghost... don't EVEN get me started with the schools. The problem is that we are progressing into a "protective society"
if there's no blood i don't want to hear about it. a good scuffle every now and again is good for them. Besides that, when all is said and done, they're usually "buddies" again anyway.
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Since I work in a school setting, I've seen first-hand what happens to boys roughhousing on the playground.....most get an in school suspension for doing so. Is it warranted? I don't think so; I think they've over-reacted to boys being boys at play. Fighting should earn a one day ISS, but normal "boy" play shouldn't. Schools have over-reacted so much that even a game of tag is no longer allowed on most school playgrounds. I might get slammed for this comment, but in a way the schools have been/are sissyfying boys.....they're not allowed to be boys.
There's a bit of an uproar here right now because some girl in school was texting during class and wouldn't stop when the teacher told her too.
THey actually called the cops and arrested her for disorderly conduct.
Now everyones arguing if that's just kids being kids and should have been dealt with in the school or if it was right to elevate it to a legal issue.
Personally I'm torn. Going on MY high school experience I'd say it's a school issue.
But knowing that kids have no problems today attacking a teacher and other students, and not having been there, I wonder if there was no real alternative.
If you physically drag that kid out of class and to the principles office odds are the parents would file a lawsuit against the school. It's just a sad state of affairs these days
That sounds like the school administration doesn't want to deal with the problem. Unfortunately, there's a lot of that too. The schools are a mess, and everyone from the school board right on down to a majority of the parents are at fault....no one wants to take responsibility anymore.
At the schools here, if a kid is caught in class with a cell phone (texting, or it rings during class, or they're actually talking on it) they confiscate the phone, take it to the office, and a parent has to go in with the kid & talk to the principal before the phone is given back. We've had parents threaten to sue over this policy, but so far, no one has. But I also know of some teachers who do nothing about it; they let the disruptions continue.
he he... reminds me of when Jacob was in grade school and he kept taking some little hand held video game to school. the first time i warned him, the next time i had to go to the school, i grabbed a hammer from the warehouse at work and had Jacob and the principal meet me outside the school. when the principal handed me the game unit, i dropped it on the sidewalk and bashed it to pieces. problem solved...
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Last June when school was out for the summer, in the building I work at they had over 200 cell phones that were never returned. The parents didn't come after them. Did they not come after them because they wanted to teach their kid a lesson, or did they not come after them because they didn't want to deal with the principal and just got their kid a new phone? I think it was probably some of both.
Any DECENT parent would WANT you to confiscate their kids phone if it was getting in the way of the reason they were there, TO LEARN!
EXACTLY!!!!
This next batch could be interesting as parents. History shows that they might be a bit more harsh with their children. But, since there seems to be a lax version of parenting going on... Not much to improve on. I think too many people waited to have children and are just out of touch with what a child really wants to do. (not what they think their friend might want them to do.) Career professionals, two per home, aren't like our parents were. My mom worked part time only because she was divorced and had five children to raise. She got benefits at the place she work part time.
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