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Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

Cool Tuesday

allycat · Cat Scratch Diva

good morning....its little A's first day of school today.

Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

YAY for little A!

WebGuy · Doesn't Do Windows

Yes, oddly cool. There were some cool temp records smashed yesterday morning.

Another interesting article on global warming that I read yesterday. More and more real scientists are questioning if this isn't just a natural cycle.

I've been watching the news coverage about those fires in CA. Its terrible. Two firefighters have lost their lives so far.

MzHartz · Permanent Vacation

Good day all.

Good luck in school little A!

disco strangler · Smiles everyone, smiles!

Good morning! It's a beautiful this morning! Such a shame to waste it in the office. As Mema mentioned, this is unusual. August is usually the hottest month of summer! Not complaining at all.

OMG! The next ice age is approaching -- it's global cooling! I wonder which politician will be the first to cash in...

Happy first day of school to Little A! Kids grow up so fast...

Y'all have a great day!

WebGuy · Doesn't Do Windows

Little A goes to school? Wow, time flies.

She'll do great!

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

Morning. Day two of cool morning temps. I think the high yesterday was 72* and it may only be 75* today. I like it!

murscclub · Chairman Of The Board

One cool summer does not disprove global warming, nor does one or more warmer seasons prove it. Yes, the Earth goes through natural climate cycles, e.g. ice ages. However, one of the keys in the global warming discussion is the rate at which the climate has been changing in the past couple of centuries.

That link that Web posted is interesting, and it is essential that all angles of the issue be explored and discussed. However, let me caution you, as someone with degrees (no pun intended! biggrin

) and background in the sicence and weather, do not be quick to dismiss global warming theory. We as humans are changing our environment. The end result cannot be definitively proven without a shadow of a doubt of course, but we are impacting it, and we should be taking steps to minimize that impact.

As for the politicians running with it, that is of course part of the problem, because it then becomes polarized like every other debate and prevents us from doing anything meaningful about it in most cases.

MzHartz · Permanent Vacation

I'm not trying to get into the "global warming" argument, but it does bring up a pet peeve of mine.

I usually hear this in the winter, but it's been cool this summer, so I've heard this a lot recently. "Look at how cold it is out, and you call this Global Warming?"

Actually, to be PC, it's Global Climate Change. Whether it's natural or caused by man, the weather has been all screwy all over the earth, and it's not just warming.

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

MzHartz wrote:
I usually hear this in the winter, but it's been cool this summer, so I've heard this a lot recently. "Look at how cold it is out, and you call this Global Warming?"

Agreed. I definitely have heard it a lot.

disco strangler · Smiles everyone, smiles!

MzHartz wrote:

I'm not trying to get into the "global warming" argument, but it does bring up a pet peeve of mine.

I usually hear this in the winter, but it's been cool this summer, so I've heard this a lot recently. "Look at how cold it is out, and you call this Global Warming?"

Actually, to be PC, it's Global Climate Change. Whether it's natural or caused by man, the weather has been all screwy all over the earth, and it's not just warming.

I agree, MZ -- Global Climate Change. And considering the age of the planet change is certain.

All this talk about global warming is making me think of weenie roasts -- i don't know why, it's just one of those random thought processes....

anyhow, i'm thinking it's cool enough to sit around a campfire this evening and roast weenies and marshmallows...

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

Ooooo. Ooooo. May I come over? I'll bring the marshmallows. I have some left from a couple days of camping last week. I had to show a friend how to roast a marshmallow.

43 years old and he never had a roasted marshmallow. Such a shame.

murscclub · Chairman Of The Board

MzHartz wrote:

Actually, to be PC, it's Global Climate Change. Whether it's natural or caused by man, the weather has been all screwy all over the earth, and it's not just warming.

Excellent point Mz.

disco strangler · Smiles everyone, smiles!

confuzzed wrote:

Ooooo. Ooooo. May I come over? I'll bring the marshmallows. I have some left from a couple days of camping last week. I had to show a friend how to roast a marshmallow. 43 years old and he never had a roasted marshmallow. Such a shame.

Come on down, Fuzzy!

So, what did he think? Did he love them?

MzHartz · Permanent Vacation

43 years old and never roasted a marshmallow? Was he raised in a bubble?

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

He enjoyed them. He enjoyed them even more when I inserted a piece of hershey's bar in the middle of one or two and then had him roast them. He is a big chocolate guy. I have never seen a guy enjoy chocolate so much.

Jeremy Riggs · 2011 Super Bowl Champions!

I saw a very interesting take on the whole global climate change thing on television a few months ago.

This scientist dude took an approach I'd never heard before and I won't be able to convey it properly here, but in essence he said we all need to chill and accept things for what they are.

His theory being that no matter what we'll affect our surroundings and it frustrated him to hear people talk about humanity as if we've done a bad thing.

His point was that EVERYTHING in life is natural, even the manufactured stuff, because it was made by humans and we're a part of nature.

Now, I know that sounds a bit out there, but if you really think about it his point is solid. He said we like to think we're better than everything around us, that somehow we're not merely a part of the planet, but rather that we rule the planet. While we are in fact the top of the food chain (right now) we're still a part of nature and anything we do is therefore natural.

If a bunny had the intelligence to build a little bunny mobile that was pumping out pollution into the air it would still be natural because it was an evolution of that species to a degree.

On a more simple level, we're actually concerned now about the effect of cow flatulence on the air quality and some even suggest it is part of global warming. What the hell is more natural than a cow farting?

I still think when we can do things in a less toxic way we should. That's just good common sense. But the way we have come to make villains of ourselves for our advancements is just silly. We have made logical steps forward using the technology we had at our disposal at the time. Now we're becoming aware of the environment issues and we're taking steps to do better. Let's pat ourselves on the back for continuing to evolve.

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

MzHartz wrote:
43 years old and never roasted a marshmallow? Was he raised in a bubble?

Sometimes I wonder. With the stories I have heard, I am surprised that he and his friends weren't dead at a very young age.

Believe it or not, there are many food things he had not had until he met me. He seemed like such a deprived child. How can you grow up and never have peanutbutter toast?

I mean it is so simple. Make toast, spread the peanutbutter on it and enjoy.

Jeremy Riggs · 2011 Super Bowl Champions!

eh, see. Re-reading my post I can see I butchered it. I'll have to see if I can find the guys interview on youtube and post a link.

disco strangler · Smiles everyone, smiles!

I'd bet that cow farts are the silent deadly kind...

Little Bear, our dog, his are...

Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

I think I get what you are talking about JR. In reality, I think there are valid points on both sides of the argument. The planet does have certain climate cycles that will occur regardless of the intervention of man. I forget if it is a 30 year or 50 year natural cycle, but you can go back and look as far as man has kept records and see the cycles reoccur. At the same time, man has significantly altered the planet, even though by using things from nature to do it. Deforestation, increasing the toxins dumped into the air, creating nuclear waste, converting natural resources from their "natural" state into other things for use by man... all of that does have to have some impact.

I don't think man is completely to blame for global climate change. I do think we should try to reduce our impact on the planet, but even if we all "unplugged" today and went back to stone age living, climate change would still occur.

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

I am just going to go live in a box.

"I'm a livin' in a box. I'm a livin' in a cardboard box."

Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

Biodegradeable...not a good long haul plan.

WebGuy · Doesn't Do Windows

One of the (if not the) biggest rules of science is that of cause and effect. Every cause has an effect, and every effect has a cause. Science tells us that this rule is true for everything physical (except the beginnings of our universe).

I will admit that I haven't dug extremely deeply into the global warming studies, but I have yet to see the proof that we are the cause of the climate changes. Yes, our climate is changing (the effect). We can measure and see that change, but I have yet to see the proof that we, or co2, is the cause. Everything I've read has just been theories. Over time, those theories have become accepted facts (by some).

Science also tells us that we should not jump to conclusions when it comes to cause and effect. After an alien's first time visit here on earth, it could easily come to believe that when cars turn on their windshield wipers, it causes rain to fall. To the alien, it seems like a very likely cause and effect.

My point is that it could turn out to be true that we are effecting our climate, but to my knowledge that is yet to be proven. My issue is in that this is not an overnight thing. We don't have to make snap decisions and possibly huge, costly mistakes over a theory. Why not take the time to figure out the real problem, be sure that is the problem, and make sensible decisions to work for a solution? Taxing energy companies out of existence does not seem like a very scientific way to go about solving a scientific problem.

This is the same issue I have with the other big things that are going on. Yes, our health care is screwed up. It has been screwed up for a LONG time. Why not take the time to make sure we are going after the right problem the first time, rather than the "just try something" attitude we have now. "Just try something" is very costly. When your car breaks down, you don't go at fixing it that way . . . you first try to determine exactly is broken before you start buying new parts.

I hear the argument that we need national health insurance so the poor can be covered, but yet we are also going to send utility prices through the roof on the same people with a huge energy tax? If we throw money at the first problem, but then offset that by the 2nd problem, then what will we get for a return on our investment?

I don't mean this post to be pro or anti any of these things, my point is that I feel we need to slow down and be absolutely sure that we are trying to solve the right problems, in the right ways, and get over the "lets just try SOMETHING" attitude. I think we are smarter than that.

Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

Well said, Web. I'm not giving up my S.U.V. in favor of an electric car... I do, however, use my S.U.V. to take much of my household waste to the recycling center instead of just dumping it in the trash. That is my contribution to reducing my carbon footprint.

MzHartz · Permanent Vacation

I think the "just try something" plan (not that I'm an advocate of it) is partially a reaction to the people who purposely advocate further studies just to delay things. Like the legislators who argue for more research because they have a stake in the industry that's benefiting from the way things are.

confuzzed · Permanent State of Confusion

I know. But I don't know how to build a mudhut, which is also sort of biodegradeable. I guess you continue to pile mud layer upon layer. Make a layer, let it dry, add another.
Same is true with an igloo. Biodegradeable. But I am not going that far. I don't like the cold. How about a log cabin? They too may be biodegradeable, but at least it would take longer. It will outlive me easily. After all, I only have to go a few miles down the road to see the log cabins of George Washington and his troops. They are still standing and seem to be okay.

Mad Mema · Bad Biker Granny

I'm just thinking my home will eventually biodegrade, but I'd seriously rather live in it than a mud hut or an igloo.

disco strangler · Smiles everyone, smiles!

I grew up in a mud hut... well, technically -- a house made out of adobe brick (mud brick).

In southern NM, straw houses are gaining popularity -- well, again, technically. They're hay bale houses. Supposedly the R rating is a lot better than on adobe...